ok Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2014 14:54:55 UTC+1 schrieb Mark Volkmann: > > I'll reply once more and then drop it since this is a Node.js mailing list. > > 1) AngularJS is popular because it's a great framework. Maybe Google > helped it get noticed, but people would drop it if it wasn't good. > i didn't say it's bad. i said, it doesn't fit my requirements AND there are other similar tools, which are better. may be i dislike angulare because it's a framework. i usually don't like when a tool restricts me. i think we can aggree on that.
> 2) I know first-hand how much work it saved me. I find it to be highly > productive. If you haven't actually used it for at least two weeks, you > shouldn't dismiss it by just claiming it is "toxic". > sure, it fits your all day work. i'm fine with that. i said, what i do, and if would start with angular way, here i would be damned. fast. that i mean with "toxic". because angular, like most frameworks, have one or two ways to do things, and this options are not the best. you know, the story with a hammer an a nail. > 3) The target audience for the Web apps I write is definitely not people > that have JavaScript disabled in their browser. > WebApps, sure. Things like Trello are fine for me. BUT, and here i'm 100% with Alex, Content-driven apps like Pinterest, Instagram etc. should be usable without js. may be not fully usable, but they at least should let me see what they are, before i allow them script execution. The question was, who' is using mean and why/not. thank you :) > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 7:39 AM, greelgorke <greel...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> >> > Who have JS disabled in the browser those days? >> >> me, via NoScript plugin, and also everyone, including you, who's loading >> the js files. >> >> @Mark: There are other client-side MV* solutions out there. Angular has >> that attention mostly because of it's Big Mama Google. plus: Not every >> WebApplication TM is a full-bloat single page app. most of the time i >> develop either a classic Page with some interactivity, or an embeddable >> widget. in both cases things like Angular are more toxic than helping. >> >>> -- >>> Att, >>> Alan Hoffmeister >>> >>> >>> 2014-02-14 11:14 GMT-02:00 Alex Kocharin <al...@kocharin.ru>: >>> > >>> > 1. What would search engines and other scripts see instead of your >>> page? >>> > 2. What would users without javascript enabled see instead of your >>> page? >>> > >>> > If you don't care about any of that, then yeah I suppose you could use >>> it. >>> > >>> > So yeah, imho MEAN stack is good except for "A". :) >>> > >>> > >>> > 14.02.2014, 16:12, "Mark Volkmann" <r.mark....@gmail.com>: >>> > >>> > I know this isn't an AngularJS mailing list, but I want to throw out >>> an >>> > opinion that you're really missing out if you are creating Web apps >>> that >>> > only use jQuery or direct DOM manipulation. I have been using >>> AngularJS for >>> > about six months and have to say that it is WONDERFUL! There's a bit >>> of a >>> > learning curve, but once you get the hang of taking advantage of >>> two-way >>> > data binding and other features, you won't want to go back to the old >>> way. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 2:20 AM, greelgorke <greel...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > I dont use MEAN mainly because i dont use the A. >>> > >>> > Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2014 02:01:40 UTC+1 schrieb Babu Subramanian: >>> > >>> > Hi >>> > >>> > Would like to know from guys, who have used the MEAN stack, how you >>> found >>> > it? 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