About they at least should let me see what they are, before i allow them script execution."
Maybe, a section on your home page to be displayed if JavaScript is not supported. An static file, describing your app. A video demo? Another "bigger" option: to have at least partially functionality implemented as server pages. Angel "Java" Lopez @ajlopez On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Babu Subramanian < [email protected]> wrote: > Thanks guys for the responses! > > >>Content-driven apps like Pinterest, Instagram etc. should be usable > without js. may be not fully usable, but they at least should let me see > what they are, before i allow them script execution. > I thought you made a case for HTML without js. Is it possible to elaborate > on "they at least should let me see what they are, before i allow them > script execution." > > Regards > > Babu Subramanian > +91 98452 02337 > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:10 PM, greelgorke <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ok >> >> Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2014 14:54:55 UTC+1 schrieb Mark Volkmann: >> >>> I'll reply once more and then drop it since this is a Node.js mailing >>> list. >>> >>> 1) AngularJS is popular because it's a great framework. Maybe Google >>> helped it get noticed, but people would drop it if it wasn't good. >>> >> i didn't say it's bad. i said, it doesn't fit my requirements AND there >> are other similar tools, which are better. may be i dislike angulare >> because it's a framework. i usually don't like when a tool restricts me. i >> think we can aggree on that. >> >>> 2) I know first-hand how much work it saved me. I find it to be highly >>> productive. If you haven't actually used it for at least two weeks, you >>> shouldn't dismiss it by just claiming it is "toxic". >>> >> sure, it fits your all day work. i'm fine with that. i said, what i do, >> and if would start with angular way, here i would be damned. fast. that i >> mean with "toxic". because angular, like most frameworks, have one or two >> ways to do things, and this options are not the best. you know, the story >> with a hammer an a nail. >> >>> 3) The target audience for the Web apps I write is definitely not people >>> that have JavaScript disabled in their browser. >>> >> WebApps, sure. Things like Trello are fine for me. BUT, and here i'm 100% >> with Alex, Content-driven apps like Pinterest, Instagram etc. should be >> usable without js. may be not fully usable, but they at least should let me >> see what they are, before i allow them script execution. >> >> The question was, who' is using mean and why/not. thank you :) >> >> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 7:39 AM, greelgorke <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> > Who have JS disabled in the browser those days? >>>> >>>> me, via NoScript plugin, and also everyone, including you, who's >>>> loading the js files. >>>> >>>> @Mark: There are other client-side MV* solutions out there. Angular has >>>> that attention mostly because of it's Big Mama Google. plus: Not every >>>> WebApplication TM is a full-bloat single page app. most of the time i >>>> develop either a classic Page with some interactivity, or an embeddable >>>> widget. in both cases things like Angular are more toxic than helping. >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Att, >>>>> Alan Hoffmeister >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2014-02-14 11:14 GMT-02:00 Alex Kocharin <[email protected]>: >>>>> > >>>>> > 1. What would search engines and other scripts see instead of your >>>>> page? >>>>> > 2. What would users without javascript enabled see instead of your >>>>> page? >>>>> > >>>>> > If you don't care about any of that, then yeah I suppose you could >>>>> use it. >>>>> > >>>>> > So yeah, imho MEAN stack is good except for "A". :) >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > 14.02.2014, 16:12, "Mark Volkmann" <[email protected]>: >>>>> > >>>>> > I know this isn't an AngularJS mailing list, but I want to throw out >>>>> an >>>>> > opinion that you're really missing out if you are creating Web apps >>>>> that >>>>> > only use jQuery or direct DOM manipulation. I have been using >>>>> AngularJS for >>>>> > about six months and have to say that it is WONDERFUL! There's a bit >>>>> of a >>>>> > learning curve, but once you get the hang of taking advantage of >>>>> two-way >>>>> > data binding and other features, you won't want to go back to the >>>>> old way. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 2:20 AM, greelgorke <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > I dont use MEAN mainly because i dont use the A. >>>>> > >>>>> > Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2014 02:01:40 UTC+1 schrieb Babu >>>>> Subramanian: >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi >>>>> > >>>>> > Would like to know from guys, who have used the MEAN stack, how you >>>>> found >>>>> > it? 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