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On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Alex Kocharin <a...@kocharin.ru> wrote: > > Exactly. As a rule of thumb, I try to allow users to access all data > without javascript, but not edit it. It's because complex editors will have > to be written in javascript, and making fallbacks for all of them is too > hard, since non-js clients are unlikely to edit something anyway. > > So if you want to view data, you can do it even in lynx. But if you want > to edit it, you have to install Chrome. That's about the best practice > there is. > > Here is also a relevant article - > https://sourcegraph.com/blog/switching-from-angularjs-to-server-side-html- > discussed in HN recently. > > > 17.02.2014, 14:31, "Angel Java Lopez" <ajlopez2...@gmail.com>: > > About they at least should let me see what they are, before i allow them > script execution." > > Maybe, a section on your home page to be displayed if JavaScript is not > supported. An static file, describing your app. A video demo? > > Another "bigger" option: to have at least partially functionality > implemented as server pages. > > Angel "Java" Lopez > @ajlopez > > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Babu Subramanian < > babu.subraman...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks guys for the responses! > > >>Content-driven apps like Pinterest, Instagram etc. should be usable > without js. may be not fully usable, but they at least should let me see > what they are, before i allow them script execution. > I thought you made a case for HTML without js. Is it possible to elaborate > on "they at least should let me see what they are, before i allow them > script execution." > Regards > > Babu Subramanian > +91 98452 02337 > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:10 PM, greelgorke <greelgo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ok > > Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2014 14:54:55 UTC+1 schrieb Mark Volkmann: > > I'll reply once more and then drop it since this is a Node.js mailing list. > > 1) AngularJS is popular because it's a great framework. Maybe Google > helped it get noticed, but people would drop it if it wasn't good. > > i didn't say it's bad. i said, it doesn't fit my requirements AND there > are other similar tools, which are better. may be i dislike angulare > because it's a framework. i usually don't like when a tool restricts me. i > think we can aggree on that. > > > 2) I know first-hand how much work it saved me. I find it to be highly > productive. If you haven't actually used it for at least two weeks, you > shouldn't dismiss it by just claiming it is "toxic". > > sure, it fits your all day work. i'm fine with that. i said, what i do, > and if would start with angular way, here i would be damned. fast. that i > mean with "toxic". because angular, like most frameworks, have one or two > ways to do things, and this options are not the best. you know, the story > with a hammer an a nail. > > 3) The target audience for the Web apps I write is definitely not people > that have JavaScript disabled in their browser. > > WebApps, sure. Things like Trello are fine for me. BUT, and here i'm 100% > with Alex, Content-driven apps like Pinterest, Instagram etc. should be > usable without js. may be not fully usable, but they at least should let me > see what they are, before i allow them script execution. > > The question was, who' is using mean and why/not. thank you :) > > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 7:39 AM, greelgorke <greel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Who have JS disabled in the browser those days? > > me, via NoScript plugin, and also everyone, including you, who's loading > the js files. > > @Mark: There are other client-side MV* solutions out there. Angular has > that attention mostly because of it's Big Mama Google. plus: Not every > WebApplication TM is a full-bloat single page app. most of the time i > develop either a classic Page with some interactivity, or an embeddable > widget. in both cases things like Angular are more toxic than helping. > > -- > Att, > Alan Hoffmeister > > > 2014-02-14 11:14 GMT-02:00 Alex Kocharin <al...@kocharin.ru>: > > > > 1. What would search engines and other scripts see instead of your page? > > 2. What would users without javascript enabled see instead of your page? > > > > If you don't care about any of that, then yeah I suppose you could use > it. > > > > So yeah, imho MEAN stack is good except for "A". :) > > > > > > 14.02.2014, 16:12, "Mark Volkmann" <r.mark....@gmail.com>: > > > > I know this isn't an AngularJS mailing list, but I want to throw out an > > opinion that you're really missing out if you are creating Web apps that > > only use jQuery or direct DOM manipulation. I have been using AngularJS > for > > about six months and have to say that it is WONDERFUL! There's a bit of > a > > learning curve, but once you get the hang of taking advantage of two-way > > data binding and other features, you won't want to go back to the old > way. > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 2:20 AM, greelgorke <greel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I dont use MEAN mainly because i dont use the A. > > > > Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2014 02:01:40 UTC+1 schrieb Babu Subramanian: > > > > Hi > > > > Would like to know from guys, who have used the MEAN stack, how you > found > > it? 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