Thanks guys for the responses! >>Content-driven apps like Pinterest, Instagram etc. should be usable without js. may be not fully usable, but they at least should let me see what they are, before i allow them script execution. I thought you made a case for HTML without js. Is it possible to elaborate on "they at least should let me see what they are, before i allow them script execution."
Regards Babu Subramanian +91 98452 02337 On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:10 PM, greelgorke <greelgo...@gmail.com> wrote: > ok > > Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2014 14:54:55 UTC+1 schrieb Mark Volkmann: > >> I'll reply once more and then drop it since this is a Node.js mailing >> list. >> >> 1) AngularJS is popular because it's a great framework. Maybe Google >> helped it get noticed, but people would drop it if it wasn't good. >> > i didn't say it's bad. i said, it doesn't fit my requirements AND there > are other similar tools, which are better. may be i dislike angulare > because it's a framework. i usually don't like when a tool restricts me. i > think we can aggree on that. > >> 2) I know first-hand how much work it saved me. I find it to be highly >> productive. If you haven't actually used it for at least two weeks, you >> shouldn't dismiss it by just claiming it is "toxic". >> > sure, it fits your all day work. i'm fine with that. i said, what i do, > and if would start with angular way, here i would be damned. fast. that i > mean with "toxic". because angular, like most frameworks, have one or two > ways to do things, and this options are not the best. you know, the story > with a hammer an a nail. > >> 3) The target audience for the Web apps I write is definitely not people >> that have JavaScript disabled in their browser. >> > WebApps, sure. Things like Trello are fine for me. BUT, and here i'm 100% > with Alex, Content-driven apps like Pinterest, Instagram etc. should be > usable without js. may be not fully usable, but they at least should let me > see what they are, before i allow them script execution. > > The question was, who' is using mean and why/not. thank you :) > > >> >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 7:39 AM, greelgorke <greel...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> > Who have JS disabled in the browser those days? >>> >>> me, via NoScript plugin, and also everyone, including you, who's >>> loading the js files. >>> >>> @Mark: There are other client-side MV* solutions out there. Angular has >>> that attention mostly because of it's Big Mama Google. plus: Not every >>> WebApplication TM is a full-bloat single page app. most of the time i >>> develop either a classic Page with some interactivity, or an embeddable >>> widget. in both cases things like Angular are more toxic than helping. >>> >>>> -- >>>> Att, >>>> Alan Hoffmeister >>>> >>>> >>>> 2014-02-14 11:14 GMT-02:00 Alex Kocharin <al...@kocharin.ru>: >>>> > >>>> > 1. What would search engines and other scripts see instead of your >>>> page? >>>> > 2. What would users without javascript enabled see instead of your >>>> page? >>>> > >>>> > If you don't care about any of that, then yeah I suppose you could >>>> use it. >>>> > >>>> > So yeah, imho MEAN stack is good except for "A". :) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > 14.02.2014, 16:12, "Mark Volkmann" <r.mark....@gmail.com>: >>>> > >>>> > I know this isn't an AngularJS mailing list, but I want to throw out >>>> an >>>> > opinion that you're really missing out if you are creating Web apps >>>> that >>>> > only use jQuery or direct DOM manipulation. I have been using >>>> AngularJS for >>>> > about six months and have to say that it is WONDERFUL! There's a bit >>>> of a >>>> > learning curve, but once you get the hang of taking advantage of >>>> two-way >>>> > data binding and other features, you won't want to go back to the old >>>> way. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 2:20 AM, greelgorke <greel...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I dont use MEAN mainly because i dont use the A. >>>> > >>>> > Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2014 02:01:40 UTC+1 schrieb Babu Subramanian: >>>> > >>>> > Hi >>>> > >>>> > Would like to know from guys, who have used the MEAN stack, how you >>>> found >>>> > it? 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