> IF you are going to use the BB on your own BES, the carrier has to 
> enable the device/data plan to be able to do this (otherwise you will 
> only have data on their network, not yours).

  >With VZW, we've never been asked, nor told VZW, that we're using a
BES.  The BBs "just work".  Other carriers may be different.  I don't
remember for Nextel.

Ah, with Sprint/Nextel you do.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Blackberry Server question.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:50 AM, David
Mazzaccaro<david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com> wrote:
> IF you are going to use the BB on your own BES, the carrier has to 
> enable the device/data plan to be able to do this (otherwise you will 
> only have data on their network, not yours).

  With VZW, we've never been asked, nor told VZW, that we're using a
BES.  The BBs "just work".  Other carriers may be different.  I don't
remember for Nextel.

  We *have* had a case where VZW provisioned a mobile subscriber
incorrectly.  It wasn't in their system as BlackBerry at all, they had
it as some other kind of mobile device.  *That* caused the BB to not
work.

> You pay for the data plan ($20, $30, $40, whatever).

  Sure.  VZW calls it an "email plan", but same thing.  But if you don't
subscribe to said email plan, you don't get email on the BB *at all*.
It's not an extra fee for BES.

-- Ben

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