Hi Thomas / Bert,

I think you will find a significant pain point in the modelling community.
Agree that for now 1.4 .opt is going to be best for implementers but as I
understand things a 2.0 .opt and related RM changes would not be radically
different, in any case.

The big difference, and gain (once we get over the line) is much easier
handling of design-time artefacts, and potential extensibility.

Ian

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On 1 March 2017 at 12:26, Thomas Beale <thomas.be...@openehr.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 01/03/2017 10:00, Bert Verhees wrote:
>
> Op 1-3-2017 om 10:44 schreef Thomas Beale:
>
> Good news Thomas, but don't bring it with disdain.
>
>
> I don't know what the words means ;)
>
>
> I got it from google translate, in French it is dedain.
>
>
> c'était une blague...
>
>
> that appears to be a PR about GDL?
>
>
> I meant a current list of Open Issues, I don't know why the 168 is on top,
> it seems to have the highest priority, I don't understand why.
> That is not my discussion point.
>
>
> ah - probably you wanted to show these issues
> <https://openehr.atlassian.net/issues/?filter=-4&jql=status%20in%20%28Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20Analysis%2C%20%22In%20Review%22%29%20AND%20component%20in%20%28ADL2%2C%20AOM2%29%20order%20by%20created%20DESC>.
> There are issues (always), but not with the specialisation representation.
>
>
> So it's not perfect, but it's far from non-existent. I'd say your best bet
> is to use the new version of ADL-designer.
>
> As said, institutions will want a stable release. I will never advise an
> organization to move to ADL2 as long as it is not stable.
>
>
> well, it has a stable release here
> <http://www.openehr.org/releases/AM/Release-2.0.6/docs/index>. As noted
> above, there are issues, but there are issues outstanding on everything -
> they get worked on and the results get added to later releases. I'm not
> sure of what the alternative to that is.
>
> Also one of the selling points of OpenEHR is CKM, it is fully ADL 1.4.
> There must be many archetype, and many data-storages based on ADL 1.4
>
>
> well CKM is a problem in one sense, but people could work with ADL2 tools
> and save the results as ADL 1.4, which  you can do in the ADL-designer, for
> upload to CKM. That's not ideal, I agree - it would be better if CKM
> upgraded to ADL2.
>
> Data storage is generally based on OPT 1.4, and I think that is also a
> save format of the ADL-designer.
>
>
> And there is another point, companies don't tend to change when they do
> not feel the pain.
> I had my first IP6 course in 1998, I worked for DEC (Digital) at that
> time, and still the computer I work on is configured using IP4, so is my
> Internet-router.
>
>
> well you are pointing out some pain, and I am pointing out the solution.
> If you are not in enough pain, you may not want the solution ;)
>
> - thomas
>
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