> This is very true, but I question what you meant by that. > > In my own experience, 95% of the people don't use a lot of the features of > Solaris because they're almost completely incompetent when it comes to > Solaris.
That is not a good thing, I do agree, but at the same time - I'd say it's Solaris that needs to improve in this regard. If people can't use your product properly (95% of the time to use your statistic) then something is wrong with the usability of your product. Not the (95%) of people. Not saying a competent Solaris admin can't run the OS for all it's worth. Just competent Solaris admin's are few and far inbetween if 95% is indeed the amount who are not. If this is the case, then usability is the flaw. Now, if 5% can't use the features, I'd blame the 5% for being ignorant. > > The so called "IT experts" seem to be experts only in clicking on pictures > in Windows and Linux. > > Normally this wouldn't be a problem, except these guys try to sell > themselves as the experts, and make it harder for people that actually > know something to get in. I think anybody who was really good with Solaris, would have no problem getting a position above one of these "clicky clicky" folks. They'd probably be better at the "clicky clicky" too. I don't see how it would be hard at *all* to get a job if you knew Solaris well. > Agreed. SMC sucks dead bunnies through a bent straw sideways; but then > again, being a hardcore shell guy, perhaps I'm the wrong person to write > that. > > However, to me SMC is confusing, slow and useless. Well, two things. #1 - I agree, SMC sucks, even for "clicky clicky" people. I think pretty much everybody would agree with that. #2 - You've just defined why you made the (above) responses you made. You're one of the few "hardcore" guys around, who knows what they are doing. Of course from your perspective, it's a flaw in the users if they can't handle Solaris in it's full glory. I'm new to Solaris. I'm not a stupid person (I would like to think...) Solaris administration has a huge learning curve. Would you blame me for my difficulties in using it? I've stuck with it and I've come to like it a lot, but that doesn't mean I think the admin/user experience is very good. It's a beautiful OS technically, but it's pretty damn ugly usability wise. For me, the technical value makes the learning curve worthwhile, but for companies who would have to employ 5 Solaris gurus at hundreds of thousands a year to maintain a bunch of servers, vs. a dozen linux guys at 15-20/hour who "got the job done", a lot would go the cheaper route. That's why I say Solaris has a bit of usability issues to get past. Technically, they win. Usability wise, there is work to be done. Starting with writing documentation aimed at *normal users* and not Solaris veterans would be helpful. Think FreeBSD handbook. The Sun docs on Solaris/JES/etc seem to be more like the O'Reilly "in a nutshell" series. You know, kind of like an encyclopedia. For new users, this is pretty tough to digest, ESPECIALLY if you have no unix background. I could go on for hours, but I don't want to derail the thread. :) Cheers, David > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org