kmays wrote: "The point is you could build an updated 'something' and call it something."
/* Firstly, I would remind everyone that this is a *discussion* list. "All topics involving OpenSolaris are open for discussion." So if you don't like what I'm saying, fine. But stuff a sock in that ignorant bullshit about how this is supposed to be a discussion list about code, because you're wrong, and it's not. Secondly, try to have a sense of humor about my frustration & hyperbole, I assure you that not even I fully agree with some of the things you're about to read. I do think they need to be said though, and I know for a fact that I'm quite ignorant about whatever is going on. That's part of the problem though isn't it? */ Hmm, here are some naming ideas: Sickly Snake? Vicious Viper? The Arizona Project? Dark Matter? - (because no one can discover what's really going on) Mumbling Marketer? Sails Flails? Layoff Liars? Yournoose Mongoose? - (because the only one throat to choke is going to be your own) Fascist Freedom? - (Red White & Black, Diese farben werden nicht ausgeführt!!) Bloody Bunny? Prefork Pidgin? DeepWater Horizon? Mouldering Morale? Larrys Sinking Ship? Look, before I get flamed by the fires of Oracles autocratic oven, I *know* there are developers working on code. I appreciate that, I really do. It's a small miracle and a testament to decency that everyone hasn't jumped ship. I doubt that it's appreciated, just expected & exploited by Oracle management in a rough economy. That said, outside of those people's efforts, Oracle is failing with Sun. It is failing obviously & badly to those of us who look to real world results that can be plugged into the wall, turned on in our hands in a somewhat mobile machine, or run on a computer at all. I don't know what it will take to kick Larry Ellison's autocratic egotistical mean ass out of his bubble of narcissistic cult worship, but right now all I see is shareholder value being pissed away because Oracle hasn't the faintest clue how to run a company who's core value relies on open source. An before you go knee jerking to drink the KoolAid, I highly suggest you go look at some of the crap *he* says, cause he damn sure has the unvarnished truth coming to him. The problem is he's so stinking rich no one's got the balls to tell him the truth, and he's rich enough not to have to listen to it anyway. Besides that, he's in love with a culture of mean, and that does NOT work with open source projects. No one's ever going to mistake him for a nice & decent person, at least in business. The fact is, Oracle is blowing it, they're making simply awful mistakes with Sun that leave me gaping with surprise at how badly groupthink & `none of us is as dumb as all of us' can ruin what they paid good money for. The company was not culturally prepared to buy Sun. Oracle is unwilling, and wholly unable (imao) to change it's own culture enough to make things work with Sun, and the results of that show. They show in statements Larry makes, they show in how Oracle marketing acts, doesn't act, and _blatantly_ fails with. Now, other than as absolute proof that I quite often don't give a flying crap about my online reputation, wtf is to be done about these problems? I don't know. I don't want to throw in the towel on OpenSolaris, but I am frustrated because things *I* want to work on are too hung up to get involved with right now, and because I like the OS from a technical & CS perspective to want to leave it. What's going on with Oracle has me seriously concerned & discouraged. Thus my angst. I'm not alone in my frustration, and I really wish Oracle would get it's corporate act together. Right now it provably does not have it's act remotely near together. You can play shoot the messenger all you want. I don't care, I don't have to care, and I fully expect it. The nice thing about growing used to abuse is that you learn how much of it ends up being self-serving lies. Pot-shots at the messenger won't put pants on the emperor either, and I certainly am not enamored with his game of `lifeboat' as a corporate model of `who do we eat next?'. Tim -- This message posted from opensolaris.org _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
