joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
> Alan Coopersmith <alan.coopersm...@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>> joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
>>> The problem is that Sun/Oracle did already fork and changed things without
>>> asking the comunity whether this to be accepted by the community.
>> That's not forking, that's just Sun controlling the project as they always
>> did - there's still just one source tree and the same basic groups working
>> on it. The community never had a choice of accepting or denying Sun's work.
>> The original constitution may have mistakenly given the illusion that it
>> could, but in practice, we all knew that wasn't true. The community could
>> never say "Sorry Sun, we know you spent millions developing, testing and
>
> Well I am not sure whether you have been in Santa Clara on September 14th
> 2004.
No I wasn't. You are the only one still actively involved that I know of who
was there, and you continually refer to it like everyone else knows what you
mean, but they don't, and since no one who is in charge now was there then,
it's pretty much wholly irrelevant today.
> At that time, it was obviouy that Sun was speaking about a co-development
> between people from Sun and people fron the external community.
That was then. Many many many things have changed in the last 6 years,
including all of the Sun executives and decision makers.
> I still believe that we need this model in order to make OpenSolaris a
> successfull OSS project.
Then it will never be successful by your terms. I can't see (and before this
gets misquoted, like everything else I post, this is *my opinion*, not an
official Oracle statement of intent) any way the community would ever get
full control or equal decision making authority with Sun/Oracle.
This simply isn't that sort of open source project - it's not Debian or Apache.
Historically it's been more like Linux, Mozilla, MySQL, or Ubuntu, where the
founder/sponsor has the final say in all decisions.
Is that a horrible thing? Only if you expect and wait for it to be something
it's not. Accept it for what it is and figure out how to work with it. You
can always be in control of your fork/distro, just don't expect Oracle to give
up their control.
--
-Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com
Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System
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