----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Cannon-Brookes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how to
> > It's very nice to hear such answer. I'm not against velocity, I only little > > confused about some decisions was made for ww2. I truly believe that ww2 > > should be able to work even without presentation layer. But to provide full > > functionality it has already, it should have an additional presentation > > layer which can be plugged as required. It's always better to provide some > > options instead of forcing some opinion to others. At least we don't know > > what will come for presentation layer after one or two years. > > > > Sorry - I'm totally confused here. XWork is WebWork without the presentation > layer. What is WebWork without a presentation layer?!? > > (Nothing! :)) > If you will look at it as an Http layer it will make a picture even better. > > At the present moment ww2 I see as extension to velocity, because it has no > > meaning without it. I don't think it should be that way. > > I'm not sure about that - I mean, velocity is just one of the components > used in WW2. Velocity is a text templating engine (also not related to the > Web directly) - how is WW2 an extension of a text templating engine?! > It's because ww2 does not work without velocity, now ww2 is relaying on velocity, it does not work without it. > I think you need to explain yourself a little more. Should WW2 also not > depend on servlet.jar (JSPs)? > > M > No, but if I want that, I want to be able to use it in that way. Another choice is another strong "+" sign in the future's matrix. And how do you think to use WebWork2 without a ServletContainer, it's inpossible. If you are talking about servletContainer then JSP is already here. You can't escape servlet's and JSP. But without velocity it's nice to have an option. > > Again thanks to Fredrik Lindgren for his response. I hope everyone will see > > the benefit if some modifications will be made. > > > > > > Best Regards > > Remigijus Bauzys > > > > > >> On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:22:56 -0600, Jason Carreira > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> WW1 you can use without velocity, WW2 uses velocity for its UI tag > >>> templates. If you don't plan to use the UI tags, you can remove it. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: remigijus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, > >>> 2003 12:38 PM > >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how to > >>> > >>> > >>> I know that. As it is stated in the doc it has nothing to do > >>> with web, it can be used anywhere and is not linked with http in any > >>> way. So maybe I got a wrong answer before. I want to make it clear, can > >>> I user WebWork without velocity. Will it work without an errors after > >>> I'm going to remove velocity.jar an enties from web.xml and other > >>> places. Will I be able to ww tags without errors? > >>> If somebody can give me sure answer you are welcome. > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > >>> From: Patrick Lightbody <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, > >>> 2003 7:20 PM > >>> Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how > >>> to > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I think you're confused. XWork has almost zero > >>> dependencies. WebWork has a dependency on XWork. It also depends on > >>> velocity if you wish to use the JSP UI tags. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >>> remigijus > >>> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:50 AM > >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how > >>> to > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Very sad news. In this way I see no reason to separate > >>> xwork from webwork. Somone has missed some basic idea. I'm little > >>> confused, why to make separation and make dependency on anything else? > >>> Does someone see any inconsistency here, or I'm only one so confused > >>> here? > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > >>> From: Patrick Lightbody > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:57 PM > >>> > >>> Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without > >>> velocity how to > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Remis, > >>> > >>> In 1.x, yes. In 2.0, no. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -Pat > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >>> remigijus > >>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:23 AM > >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Subject: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity > >>> how to > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> There is possibility to use ww ui tags without > >>> using of velocity. If yes how can it be done. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> And how using of velocity influent overall > >>> server performance. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Remis > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Fredrik Lindgren > >> Software Architect, Appear Networks AB > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > >> Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it > >> help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help > >> YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Opensymphony-webwork mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > > Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it > > help you create better code? 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