Yes you ar right. I do accept yours opinion. I only wanted to state not evryting have to be that way. As exaple OGNL or any other critical palt that is critical can to be as a must, here is nothing wrong in that. But velocity is not a must part.
Again I saw what someone is working on RichControls, how it will fit into ww, or this is not a issue. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hani Suleiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how to > I disagree. I think the point he's making is 'if I don't want to use > velocity templates, I should not need velocity'. Equivelant statements > are: > > 'if I don't want to use ognl-expressions, I should not need ognl' > 'if I don't want to use jasper reports, I should not need jasper > reports' > 'if I don't want to use oracle, I should not need to install it' > > On Dec 12, 2003, at 8:47 AM, Drew McAuliffe wrote: > > > Unfortunately, that's like saying if I don't like commons-logging, I > > shouldn't be forced to use it. Or if I don't like ognl, I shouldn't be > > forced to use it. You can't make every dependency in the library > > pluggable. > > The only reason I could see velocity becoming a barrier to your work > > with > > webwork would be if the dependency forced you to write velocity > > templates. > > It does not. If you never want to touch a velocity template ever with > > webwork, you don't have to. But you need the jar file because it is > > used > > behind the scenes for some work. If you're not being forced to use > > velocity > > templates, then webwork shouldn't be forced to remove the dependency on > > something it uses for its internals just because you don't happen to > > like > > it. > > > > It sounds to me like you're confused about what the velocity dependency > > means. It doesn't mean you don't have a choice in presentation methods, > > because you do (Freemarker, JSP, velocity). If you want to use the ui > > tags, > > then you may want to know about velocity to understand the templates or > > provide your own. If you don't want to use them, then fine, don't, and > > you'll never be forced to even look at a velocity template. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > remigijus > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:02 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how to > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tracy Snell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:49 PM > > Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWorks without velocity how to > > > > > >> > >> On Dec 11, 2003, at 1:22 PM, Jason Carreira wrote: > >> > >>> WW1 you can use without velocity, WW2 uses velocity for its UI tag > >>> templates. If you don't plan to use the UI tags, you can remove it. > >> > >> You can use WW2 and just use JSPs and never have to write any Velocity > >> templates. However, Velocity is still there lurking in the dark > >> helping you out. > >> > >> > > > > Ok I'm happy to get velocity in help when I need it, but I don't want > > to be > > forced to do that. You can say siple don't use it. Ok I already doing > > that. > > But we are tolking about ww2 design issues. It has to be clear and if > > it's > > addition, evryone should now that is not ww2 but just another > > additional > > feature. And as I see some people also rising some questions about use > > of > > freemaker instead of velocity. I think I'm not only one person who > > think in > > this way. > > > > Forget about what is already, done, think again is it better to have > > it as > > option or let's say in the core of ww. Try to be objective, don't be > > inertic > > (inertia - I don't know how to write it in english in correct way, I > > hope > > you eill undertand). > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > >> Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you > >> create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click > >> Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Opensymphony-webwork mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > > Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it > > help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help > > YOU! 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