+1 :) Actually, I think that 1.0 specification is merely finalized. But if it needs more work in the future, I would like to work with James on the EG. It is great to have different eyes to look at JSR-299.
Thanks Gurkan ________________________________ From: Mohammad Nour El-Din <nour.moham...@gmail.com> To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:31:44 PM Subject: Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group It seems that we need two so why not you and Gurkan :) ? On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:30 PM, James Carman <jcar...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote: > For the record, I'm +1 on Gurkan, too. I just offered myself up > because I have interest in the topic and I do have quite a bit of > experience in the dependency injection arena (and dynamic proxies). > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din > <nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote: >> +1 for Gurkan, he has been so active on this project since the first days of >> it. >> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> >> wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> One feature we've discussed was exactly the conversation scope. >>>> His opinion as far as I remember was: the spec says JSF but it doesn't say >>>> we aren't allowed to make it independent as long as we _also_ have >>>> conversations for JSF in place. The same applies to EJB. >>>> >>>> The 2nd suggestion was the injection of Java natives (int, long, ...) for >>>> producer methods via XML. The spec defines this only for field injection >>>> but not yet for initializers and producers. Pete said they will probably >>>> add this too in the future (but there is no time left to bring it into the >>>> spec yet for 1.0). >>>> >>>> So the underlying message was: make the whining guys happy (you know of >>>> whom I'm talking about) >>> >>> Not really. the non-jsf folks ? Or those that want DI on JavaSE layer ? >>> >>> -M >>> >>>> and then make the 1,0 spec final the sooner the better! >>>> >>>> LieGrue, >>>> strub >>>> >>>> --- Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> schrieb am Do, 16.4.2009: >>>> >>>>> Von: Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> >>>>> Betreff: Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group >>>>> An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org >>>>> Datum: Donnerstag, 16. April 2009, 13:07 >>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Mark >>>>> Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi! >>>>> > >>>>> > I've talked with Pete Muir at the JSFDays about the >>>>> JSR-299 spec a lot. >>>>> > >>>>> > Since he has taken over the lead from Gavin, >>>>> >>>>> he is the IMPL lead, at JBoss. And now the JBoss rep. on >>>>> JSF 2.0 >>>>> >>>>> > it should be possible to change an EG member also. And >>>>> also to add another person. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, that's correct. That was the reason why I brought this >>>>> up >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > The Spec for 1.0 is almost finished, there are a few >>>>> things which should be addressed but there is not enough >>>>> time to get it rdy for EE6! So this is basically a situation >>>>> where we have to get rid of all showstoppers but we >>>>> shouldn't add additional functionality at this point! >>>>> > >>>>> > I think the common ground of the JSR-299 Spec is solid >>>>> enough and fairly extendable. We have to implement what's in >>>>> the Spec but are completely free to add additional >>>>> functionality! I also talked with Pete about a few features >>>>> they will add, and they now also have SE support which is >>>>> not mentioned in the Spec. So I think it will not be a >>>>> problem to have new features added which are compatible in >>>>> RI and OWB _without_ having them written down in the >>>>> WebBeans-1.0 Spec but in a later one! >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> sounds interesting. What features you were discussing? Can >>>>> you bring >>>>> it up here ? >>>>> >>>>> -Matthias >>>>> >>>>> > One possible thing that still may come is that some >>>>> functionality (like eventing or interceptors, cannot >>>>> remember which) may be removed from WebBeans and moved over >>>>> to EJB or another spec. >>>>> > >>>>> > So one who does this Job really needs to know OWB >>>>> insideout _plus_ a good amount of understanding of the whole >>>>> EE business >>>>> > >>>>> > I don't think you are deep enough into OWB yet, but >>>>> personally would highly appreciate to see you as a committer >>>>> on OWB in the future :) >>>>> > >>>>> > LieGrue, >>>>> > strub >>>>> > >>>>> > --- James Carman <jcar...@carmanconsulting.com> >>>>> schrieb am Do, 16.4.2009: >>>>> > >>>>> >> Von: James Carman <jcar...@carmanconsulting.com> >>>>> >> Betreff: Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert >>>>> Group >>>>> >> An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >> Datum: Donnerstag, 16. April 2009, 12:35 >>>>> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:35 AM, >>>>> >> Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >> > I want to step back from the Expert Group. >>>>> Question is >>>>> >> now: >>>>> >> > Does one of you want to be on that EG ? This >>>>> community >>>>> >> would >>>>> >> > make most sense to have an active OWB >>>>> committer being >>>>> >> part >>>>> >> > of the spec/EG. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I would be interested in joining, but I am not an >>>>> OWB >>>>> >> committer. I'm >>>>> >> very interested in making sure the spec stays >>>>> agnostic when >>>>> >> it comes >>>>> >> to the environment in which it runs. The >>>>> >> specification should make it >>>>> >> easy to use in Wicket, or Tapestry, or just plain >>>>> ole JSP >>>>> >> applications. >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>>>> >>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ---- >> Thanks >> - Mohammad Nour >> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour >> ---- >> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" >> - Albert Einstein >> > -- ---- Thanks - Mohammad Nour - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour ---- "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein
