>However I can sympatize with Karl and Magnus. EJB is a very new
>technology. Shipping the source makes it relatively easy for the
>competition to copy the product which of course is the downside. But I
>think shippingg the source would be for the better of the server. Nobody
>is perfect and if all of us have our hands on the source lots of those
>silly bugs should be fixed in much less time. Having to submit a
>testcase makes for a lot of effort on both sides since we have to create
>a testcase which has to be recreated by the orion team and tested. Most
>of these bug however would simply appear running your app through a
>debugger and jumping into the orion source.

I've run into so many weird and absurd problems in Orion; all it would've 
taken for me to solve the problem and submit a patch would be a grep in the 
source tree. Alas, I cannot do this and I am stuck with an application 
server that has many advantages and many disadvantages, which more or less 
cancel each other out. Many bugs I post as problems to the mailing list, 
many times without response, forcing me to submit some of them to bugzilla, 
where they go unnoticed.


Evermind's position, as stated on the FAQ, is that they would be SUED by 
Sun if they made their source code public.

What?! What is the rationale behind this conclusion???




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