Really? How can they be sued by Sun for their own source? JBoss isn't
getting sued..aren't they open source? I can't believe Sun could sue anyone
for making an open-source application server. Maybe there is something we
don't know...??

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gerald
> Gutierrez
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 10:16 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Re: Anyone using Orion in production? [long]
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> >However I can sympatize with Karl and Magnus. EJB is a very new
> >technology. Shipping the source makes it relatively easy for the
> >competition to copy the product which of course is the downside. But I
> >think shippingg the source would be for the better of the server. Nobody
> >is perfect and if all of us have our hands on the source lots of those
> >silly bugs should be fixed in much less time. Having to submit a
> >testcase makes for a lot of effort on both sides since we have to create
> >a testcase which has to be recreated by the orion team and tested. Most
> >of these bug however would simply appear running your app through a
> >debugger and jumping into the orion source.
>
> I've run into so many weird and absurd problems in Orion; all it would've
> taken for me to solve the problem and submit a patch would be a
> grep in the
> source tree. Alas, I cannot do this and I am stuck with an application
> server that has many advantages and many disadvantages, which
> more or less
> cancel each other out. Many bugs I post as problems to the mailing list,
> many times without response, forcing me to submit some of them to
> bugzilla,
> where they go unnoticed.
>
>
> Evermind's position, as stated on the FAQ, is that they would be SUED by
> Sun if they made their source code public.
>
> What?! What is the rationale behind this conclusion???
>
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