On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin
> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> are u kiddin me with those website?
>> hahaha... all are parkdomain site. earning adsense from those search and
>> domain name keyword... it that an upstream project?
>> what a lame dude!
>
>
> haha .. my bad .. I simply typed it our of memory .. it should be
>
> http://www.nasa.gov/
> http://www.fbi.org/

salah paste lagi .. guess i'm getting sleepy .. http://www.fbi.gov/


>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin
>>> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > it's good for you then. but shame you company didnt even use your
>>> > upstream
>>> > project instead use others.
>>> > http://www.inigo-tech.com/technologies
>>>
>>> www.fbi.org
>>> www.nasa.org
>>>
>>> and many others ...
>>>
>>> the upstream is not Inigo , the upstream is Plone, FreeBSD, Ubuntu,
>>> Fedora.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > then u should fight for your upstream with you partner 1st before poke
>>> > others
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Izhar Firdaus
>>> >> <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin
>>> >> > <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> sure. that's why there are people yang take care the downstream aka
>>> >> >> local
>>> >> >> nie. wlpn xsepopular upstream. if semua buat upstream; seumpama
>>> >> >> semua
>>> >> >> org
>>> >> >> nak jd kaya, kerja hebat2 dan xde org nak keje cuci sampah, so kotor
>>> >> >> la
>>> >> >> tempat2 local nie.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > for each their strength and weaknesses. I want to pull people to
>>> >> > upstream, but they refused. So I guess this place is not my game.
>>> >> > Would be better to just let this one flow and see where they lead
>>> >> > themselves to.
>>> >>
>>> >> and what upstream flows downstream , rather than just helping a
>>> >> specific group of downstream, i choose to have my stuff flow to other
>>> >> downstreams on other places by contributing upstream.
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Of course, i'll poke once a while looking for anyone who want to go
>>> >> > upstream.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> everything is up to individual and their capabilities.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Izhar Firdaus
>>> >> >> <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin
>>> >> >>> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>> > what the point reveal to you?
>>> >> >>> > i dont neither know nor like you anyway. haha. please go back to
>>> >> >>> > coding.
>>> >> >>> > maybe it's good for 'upstream'.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> haha .. the same applies to here ..
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> yup,its good for upstream. What good for upstream is good for the
>>> >> >>> rest
>>> >> >>> of the world, what good for downstream(local) only good for locals.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > :)
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Izhar Firdaus
>>> >> >>> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>> > wrote:
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin
>>> >> >>> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> > i do know my self. but refer back to your previous reply, you
>>> >> >>> >> > said
>>> >> >>> >> > you
>>> >> >>> >> > know
>>> >> >>> >> > where i come from but i didnt know you before. so maybe you
>>> >> >>> >> > can
>>> >> >>> >> > explain
>>> >> >>> >> > about it.
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> if the owner himself refused to reveal .. then why should I ?
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> no point continuing this silly thread .. /me goes back to coding
>>> >> >>> >> ..
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Izhar Firdaus
>>> >> >>> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin
>>> >> >>> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >> > so where i come from? can you give detail or my history? i
>>> >> >>> >> >> > will be
>>> >> >>> >> >> > please if
>>> >> >>> >> >> > you can share my story to the world.
>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> the best person to answer that is the body owner himself ..
>>> >> >>> >> >> look
>>> >> >>> >> >> into
>>> >> >>> >> >> the mirror ..
>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Izhar Firdaus
>>> >> >>> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > i dont think you get the message. it's not meant for
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > you.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> my message was not meant for you too, but for the list ..
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> look at
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> To:
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> header
>>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > i just share word of wisdom that i apply for years. to
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > get
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > info
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > and
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > learn
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > exp from other people is more important before i'm doing
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > business
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > or
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > other
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > things. otherwise, it will drain lots of money, time and
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > other
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > resources.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> like i said, I know where you come from ...
>>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Izhar Firdaus
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > +100 Rafe!
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Failure sure an OPTION for looser!
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Jika kita pernah kenal rakan yang sudah pernah masuk
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > longkang,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > jatuh,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > tunggang terbalik, why must we do the same things? We
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > can
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > always
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > get
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > advice
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > from them to avoid those thing!
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Winner learn from other experience and knowledge and
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > minimise
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > mistake.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > not
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > to say afraid of failure but minimise it to achieve
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > success
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > faster
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > than
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > people before them.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> haha .. if failure is an option for losers, I wonder
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> how
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> silicon
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> valley able to come into being ..
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> the camp where failure is not an option unable to find
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> their
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> own
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> path.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> chasing others, but not lead.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> ah well ... i know where y'all come from, so arguing is
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> pointless
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> anyway
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> ..
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> better for me to focus in the current angle which I've
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> chosen
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> and
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> see
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> how far stuff will go ..
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> peace be upon all of you
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Izhar Firdaus
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:14 AM, rafe azsnal
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> <azs...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > failure is an option... YES most of us do learn
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > when
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > fail..
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > why
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > should it be that way, centuries and eon we still
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > at
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > that
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > par?
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > live
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > by choices and that is something that the ALL
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > MIGHT
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > has
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > given
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > us...
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > learn and we adapt and choose not to fail,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > champion
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > or
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > not
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > if
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > are
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > willing to share the experience and knowledge you
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > can
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > actually
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > minimize the failure and may not fail at all. i
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > may
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > not
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > speak
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > for
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > all
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> it is because we have come to the point that we fear
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> failure,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> that
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> we
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> became afraid to diverge from the norm.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but i speak for myself where failure is not longer
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > an
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > option
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > consider. why are we still having meeting,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > discussion,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > roundtable,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > champion, experience people and all those thing if
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > failure
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > is
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > something to consider yet again? I don't ask for a
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > complete
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > perfection
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > bro.. but i would like to see it that way. who
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > doesn't
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > right?
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > my
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > humble request is only to see it happen and effort
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > make
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > it
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > happen..
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but what ever it is you still have the right to
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > think
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > how
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > ever
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > want it to be and the right to voice what ever
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > that
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > want
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > it
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > be...
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Izhar Firdaus
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM, rafe azsnal
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <azs...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Red1, AJ, Raja and the rest,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> what must we or them make mistake twice? or oven
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> over
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> again??
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> isn't the purpose of having the "Champion" or
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Industry
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Capable
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Individual" to guide and teach to those who need
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> it?
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> this
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> is
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> why
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> you
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> are here reason being why they or we need people
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> like
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> YOU.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> none
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> the
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> less no one is perfect but perfection is made by
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> those
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> have
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> experience it. share those experience for those
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> need
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> it
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> work
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> together to achieve the goals...
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure and mistakes are blessings in disguise,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "champions"
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> can
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only guide, but not guarantee success. true
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> perfection
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> happens
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> after thousands of failures. perfection without
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> belongs
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> to The Creator. don't fear failure, go ahead and
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> fail,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> learn
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> from
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> it, like many of us.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 後はあなたの決めることよ
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ato wa , anata no kimeru koto yo.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the rest, its up for you to decide
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> p/s: keep up the work, /me going to approach at a
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> different
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> angle.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> politics is not my game.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> but that is me with my two cents idea..
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> regards,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> //rafe
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sabrina Lim
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> <sabr...@stronium.com>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Hey guys,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Good to know that you guys are very passionate
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> what
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> you
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> do.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> This
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> is
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> something that I personally would love to see
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> and
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> help
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> make
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> a
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> difference
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in our own country and subsequently, worldwide.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Let's keep our passion burning and keep
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> striving
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> for
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> the
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> regardless
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> of circumstances. Working together towards
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> achieving a
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> shared
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> goal.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's been a pleasure to know you guys. All the
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Best regards,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sabrina
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Well said raja!
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> On 13/09/2009, Raja Iskandar Shah
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> <rajaiskand...@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> aj / red1
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> concern on developers noted.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebab tu, saya mencadangkan supaya kita ambil
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> projek
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> rumah
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anak
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yatim
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> ulu
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> gadong sebagai salah satu program perintis.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> situ
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kita
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> boleh
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> cungkil
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> apa
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yg kelab perlu buat untuk ubah manusia biasa
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kepada
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> seorang
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> world
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> class
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> open
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> source developer. kita perlukan juga
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> linuxvarisit
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di peringkat ipta. perlukan juga adempiere
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> coe
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> peringkat industri.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> saya, red1 dan aj mempunyai pengalaman, idea
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dan
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> bias
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tersendiri
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> berkaitan
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> membimbing open source developers - tapi kami
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perlu
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> take a
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> step
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> backward
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> let the club make the mistakes, errors,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> failures,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> heartaches,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> successes
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> that each one of us have already done. sebab
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kami
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> juga
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tidak
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> mempunyai
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> the
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perfect answer - kami sendiri juga perlu
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> belajar
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anda
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> semua
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> terutama
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari generasi muda dan belia.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:18 AM, red1
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> <r...@red1.org>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> (sidenote - do not use ???? <-- it is
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> spammy!!!!
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Only
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ?
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> will
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> do! :)
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> )
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Ok, the things that i feel we have achieved
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> in
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> first
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> hundred
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> days are:
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 1. I realised who can eat the most goat at
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Saba
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> arabic
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> restaurant
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> during
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> berbuka puasa
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 2. I got to know alot of great open source
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> enthusiasts,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> experts,
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> supporters and developers, but not many
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> famous
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> contributors
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> like
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> man
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> with the goat :)
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 3. I get to know that MDec can be exploited
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> to
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> help
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> us.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 4. OSDC is on its way to formation and
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> establishing
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> as
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> champion of
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> FOSS on a formal and institutional way.
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 5. I know where to go to get good free
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> makan!
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> red1
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > Apa yang telah kita capai????
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> --
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Sent from my mobile device
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D
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>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
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>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
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>>> >> >>> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
>>> >> >>> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
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>>> >> >>> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
>>> >> >>> >> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
>>> >> >>> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
>>> >> >>> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
>>> >> >>> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
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>>> >> >>> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
>>> >> >>> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
>>> >> >>> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
>>> >> >>> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
>>> >> >>> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
>>> >> >>> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
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>>> >> >>> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
>>> >> >>> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
>>> >> >>> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
>>> >> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
>>> >> >>> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
>>> >> >>> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
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>>> >> > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
>>> >> > Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
>>> >> > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
>>> >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
>>> >> > http://blog.kagesenshi.org
>>> >> > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
>>> >> >
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>>> >> --
>>> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
>>> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
>>> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
>>> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
>>> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
>>> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
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>>> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
>>> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
>>> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
>>> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
>>> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
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>
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> --
> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
>



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Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
http://blog.kagesenshi.org
92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331

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