On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: > yes but u r fedora ambassador. shame that inigo didnt use it.
Fedora is upstream higher than Ubuntu, whatever I put in Fedora will flow down to others. > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > it's good for you then. but shame you company didnt even use your >> > upstream >> > project instead use others. >> > http://www.inigo-tech.com/technologies >> >> www.fbi.org >> www.nasa.org >> >> and many others ... >> >> the upstream is not Inigo , the upstream is Plone, FreeBSD, Ubuntu, >> Fedora. >> >> > >> > then u should fight for your upstream with you partner 1st before poke >> > others >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> > <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> sure. that's why there are people yang take care the downstream aka >> >> >> local >> >> >> nie. wlpn xsepopular upstream. if semua buat upstream; seumpama >> >> >> semua >> >> >> org >> >> >> nak jd kaya, kerja hebat2 dan xde org nak keje cuci sampah, so kotor >> >> >> la >> >> >> tempat2 local nie. >> >> > >> >> > for each their strength and weaknesses. I want to pull people to >> >> > upstream, but they refused. So I guess this place is not my game. >> >> > Would be better to just let this one flow and see where they lead >> >> > themselves to. >> >> >> >> and what upstream flows downstream , rather than just helping a >> >> specific group of downstream, i choose to have my stuff flow to other >> >> downstreams on other places by contributing upstream. >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Of course, i'll poke once a while looking for anyone who want to go >> >> > upstream. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> everything is up to individual and their capabilities. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >> <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> >>> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> > what the point reveal to you? >> >> >>> > i dont neither know nor like you anyway. haha. please go back to >> >> >>> > coding. >> >> >>> > maybe it's good for 'upstream'. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> haha .. the same applies to here .. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> yup,its good for upstream. What good for upstream is good for the >> >> >>> rest >> >> >>> of the world, what good for downstream(local) only good for locals. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > :) >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >>> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> > wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> >>> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >> > i do know my self. but refer back to your previous reply, you >> >> >>> >> > said >> >> >>> >> > you >> >> >>> >> > know >> >> >>> >> > where i come from but i didnt know you before. so maybe you >> >> >>> >> > can >> >> >>> >> > explain >> >> >>> >> > about it. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> if the owner himself refused to reveal .. then why should I ? >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> no point continuing this silly thread .. /me goes back to coding >> >> >>> >> .. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >>> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> >> > wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> >>> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> > so where i come from? can you give detail or my history? i >> >> >>> >> >> > will be >> >> >>> >> >> > please if >> >> >>> >> >> > you can share my story to the world. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> the best person to answer that is the body owner himself .. >> >> >>> >> >> look >> >> >>> >> >> into >> >> >>> >> >> the mirror .. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >>> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> >>> >> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> > i dont think you get the message. it's not meant for >> >> >>> >> >> >> > you. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> my message was not meant for you too, but for the list .. >> >> >>> >> >> >> look at >> >> >>> >> >> >> the >> >> >>> >> >> >> To: >> >> >>> >> >> >> header >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> > i just share word of wisdom that i apply for years. to >> >> >>> >> >> >> > get >> >> >>> >> >> >> > info >> >> >>> >> >> >> > and >> >> >>> >> >> >> > learn >> >> >>> >> >> >> > exp from other people is more important before i'm doing >> >> >>> >> >> >> > business >> >> >>> >> >> >> > or >> >> >>> >> >> >> > other >> >> >>> >> >> >> > things. otherwise, it will drain lots of money, time and >> >> >>> >> >> >> > other >> >> >>> >> >> >> > resources. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> like i said, I know where you come from ... >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >>> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > +100 Rafe! >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Failure sure an OPTION for looser! >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Jika kita pernah kenal rakan yang sudah pernah masuk >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > longkang, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > jatuh, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > tunggang terbalik, why must we do the same things? We >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > can >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > always >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > get >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > advice >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > from them to avoid those thing! >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Winner learn from other experience and knowledge and >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > minimise >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > mistake. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > to say afraid of failure but minimise it to achieve >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > success >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > faster >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > than >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > people before them. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> haha .. if failure is an option for losers, I wonder >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> how >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> silicon >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> valley able to come into being .. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> the camp where failure is not an option unable to find >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> their >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> own >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> path. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> chasing others, but not lead. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> ah well ... i know where y'all come from, so arguing is >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> pointless >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> anyway >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> .. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> better for me to focus in the current angle which I've >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> chosen >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> see >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> how far stuff will go .. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> peace be upon all of you >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:14 AM, rafe azsnal >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> <azs...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > failure is an option... YES most of us do learn >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > when >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > fail.. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > why >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > should it be that way, centuries and eon we still >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > at >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > that >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > par? >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > live >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > by choices and that is something that the ALL >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > MIGHT >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > has >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > given >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > us... >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > learn and we adapt and choose not to fail, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > champion >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > or >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > if >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > are >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > willing to share the experience and knowledge you >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > can >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > actually >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > minimize the failure and may not fail at all. i >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > may >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > speak >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > for >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > all >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> it is because we have come to the point that we fear >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> failure, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> we >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> became afraid to diverge from the norm. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but i speak for myself where failure is not longer >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > an >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > option >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > consider. why are we still having meeting, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > discussion, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > roundtable, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > champion, experience people and all those thing if >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > failure >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > is >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > something to consider yet again? I don't ask for a >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > complete >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > perfection >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > bro.. but i would like to see it that way. who >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > doesn't >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > right? >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > my >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > humble request is only to see it happen and effort >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > make >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > happen.. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but what ever it is you still have the right to >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > think >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > how >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > ever >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > want it to be and the right to voice what ever >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > that >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > want >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > be... >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM, rafe azsnal >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <azs...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Red1, AJ, Raja and the rest, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> what must we or them make mistake twice? or oven >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> over >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> again?? >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> isn't the purpose of having the "Champion" or >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Industry >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Capable >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Individual" to guide and teach to those who need >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> it? >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> this >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> is >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> why >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> you >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> are here reason being why they or we need people >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> like >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> YOU. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> none >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> the >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> less no one is perfect but perfection is made by >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> those >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> have >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> experience it. share those experience for those >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> need >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> it >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> work >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> together to achieve the goals... >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure and mistakes are blessings in disguise, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "champions" >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> can >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only guide, but not guarantee success. true >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> perfection >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> happens >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> after thousands of failures. perfection without >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> belongs >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> to The Creator. don't fear failure, go ahead and >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> fail, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> learn >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> from >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> it, like many of us. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 後はあなたの決めることよ >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ato wa , anata no kimeru koto yo. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the rest, its up for you to decide >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> p/s: keep up the work, /me going to approach at a >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> different >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> angle. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> politics is not my game. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> but that is me with my two cents idea.. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> regards, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> //rafe >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sabrina Lim >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> <sabr...@stronium.com> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Hey guys, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Good to know that you guys are very passionate >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> what >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> you >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> do. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> This >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> is >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> something that I personally would love to see >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> and >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> help >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> make >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> a >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> difference >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in our own country and subsequently, worldwide. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Let's keep our passion burning and keep >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> striving >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> for >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> the >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> regardless >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> of circumstances. Working together towards >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> achieving a >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> shared >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> goal. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's been a pleasure to know you guys. All the >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Best regards, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sabrina >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Well said raja! >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> On 13/09/2009, Raja Iskandar Shah >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> aj / red1 >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> concern on developers noted. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebab tu, saya mencadangkan supaya kita ambil >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> projek >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> rumah >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anak >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yatim >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> ulu >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> gadong sebagai salah satu program perintis. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> situ >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kita >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> boleh >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> cungkil >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> apa >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yg kelab perlu buat untuk ubah manusia biasa >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kepada >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> seorang >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> world >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> class >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> open >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> source developer. kita perlukan juga >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> linuxvarisit >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di peringkat ipta. perlukan juga adempiere >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> coe >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> peringkat industri. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> saya, red1 dan aj mempunyai pengalaman, idea >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dan >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> bias >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tersendiri >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> berkaitan >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> membimbing open source developers - tapi kami >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perlu >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> take a >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> step >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> backward >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> let the club make the mistakes, errors, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> failures, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> heartaches, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> successes >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> that each one of us have already done. sebab >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kami >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> juga >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tidak >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> mempunyai >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> the >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perfect answer - kami sendiri juga perlu >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> belajar >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anda >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> semua >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> terutama >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari generasi muda dan belia. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:18 AM, red1 >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> <r...@red1.org> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> (sidenote - do not use ???? <-- it is >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> spammy!!!! >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Only >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ? >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> will >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> do! :) >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ) >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Ok, the things that i feel we have achieved >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> in >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> first >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> hundred >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> days are: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 1. I realised who can eat the most goat at >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Saba >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> arabic >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> restaurant >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> during >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> berbuka puasa >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 2. I got to know alot of great open source >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> enthusiasts, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> experts, >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> supporters and developers, but not many >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> famous >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> contributors >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> like >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> man >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> with the goat :) >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 3. I get to know that MDec can be exploited >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> to >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> help >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> us. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 4. OSDC is on its way to formation and >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> establishing >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> as >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> champion of >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> FOSS on a formal and institutional way. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 5. I know where to go to get good free >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> makan! >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> red1 >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > Apa yang telah kita capai???? >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> -- >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Sent from my mobile device >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> 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