On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> are u kiddin me with those website? >>> hahaha... all are parkdomain site. earning adsense from those search and >>> domain name keyword... it that an upstream project? >>> what a lame dude!
btw, /me blame TMnet for the parkdomain redirection, they were ripping off on domain typo .. gtg now .. sleep .. ngantuk`~~ been grokking since pagi .. peace be upon all of you >> >> >> haha .. my bad .. I simply typed it our of memory .. it should be >> >> http://www.nasa.gov/ >> http://www.fbi.org/ > > salah paste lagi .. guess i'm getting sleepy .. http://www.fbi.gov/ > > >> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>>> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > it's good for you then. but shame you company didnt even use your >>>> > upstream >>>> > project instead use others. >>>> > http://www.inigo-tech.com/technologies >>>> >>>> www.fbi.org >>>> www.nasa.org >>>> >>>> and many others ... >>>> >>>> the upstream is not Inigo , the upstream is Plone, FreeBSD, Ubuntu, >>>> Fedora. >>>> >>>> > >>>> > then u should fight for your upstream with you partner 1st before poke >>>> > others >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>> >> <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>>> >> > <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >> sure. that's why there are people yang take care the downstream aka >>>> >> >> local >>>> >> >> nie. wlpn xsepopular upstream. if semua buat upstream; seumpama >>>> >> >> semua >>>> >> >> org >>>> >> >> nak jd kaya, kerja hebat2 dan xde org nak keje cuci sampah, so kotor >>>> >> >> la >>>> >> >> tempat2 local nie. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > for each their strength and weaknesses. I want to pull people to >>>> >> > upstream, but they refused. So I guess this place is not my game. >>>> >> > Would be better to just let this one flow and see where they lead >>>> >> > themselves to. >>>> >> >>>> >> and what upstream flows downstream , rather than just helping a >>>> >> specific group of downstream, i choose to have my stuff flow to other >>>> >> downstreams on other places by contributing upstream. >>>> >> >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Of course, i'll poke once a while looking for anyone who want to go >>>> >> > upstream. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> everything is up to individual and their capabilities. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>> >> >> <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >>>> >> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>>> >> >>> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>> > what the point reveal to you? >>>> >> >>> > i dont neither know nor like you anyway. haha. please go back to >>>> >> >>> > coding. >>>> >> >>> > maybe it's good for 'upstream'. >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> haha .. the same applies to here .. >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> yup,its good for upstream. What good for upstream is good for the >>>> >> >>> rest >>>> >> >>> of the world, what good for downstream(local) only good for locals. >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > :) >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>> >> >>> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >>>> >> >>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>>> >> >>> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> > i do know my self. but refer back to your previous reply, you >>>> >> >>> >> > said >>>> >> >>> >> > you >>>> >> >>> >> > know >>>> >> >>> >> > where i come from but i didnt know you before. so maybe you >>>> >> >>> >> > can >>>> >> >>> >> > explain >>>> >> >>> >> > about it. >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> if the owner himself refused to reveal .. then why should I ? >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> no point continuing this silly thread .. /me goes back to coding >>>> >> >>> >> .. >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>> >> >>> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >>>> >> >>> >> > wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>>> >> >>> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> > so where i come from? can you give detail or my history? i >>>> >> >>> >> >> > will be >>>> >> >>> >> >> > please if >>>> >> >>> >> >> > you can share my story to the world. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> the best person to answer that is the body owner himself .. >>>> >> >>> >> >> look >>>> >> >>> >> >> into >>>> >> >>> >> >> the mirror .. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>> >> >>> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >>>> >> >>> >> >> > wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > i dont think you get the message. it's not meant for >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > you. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> my message was not meant for you too, but for the list .. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> look at >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> the >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> To: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> header >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > i just share word of wisdom that i apply for years. to >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > get >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > info >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > and >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > learn >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > exp from other people is more important before i'm doing >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > business >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > or >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > other >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > things. otherwise, it will drain lots of money, time and >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > other >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > resources. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> like i said, I know where you come from ... >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > +100 Rafe! >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Failure sure an OPTION for looser! >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Jika kita pernah kenal rakan yang sudah pernah masuk >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > longkang, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > jatuh, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > tunggang terbalik, why must we do the same things? We >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > can >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > always >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > get >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > advice >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > from them to avoid those thing! >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Winner learn from other experience and knowledge and >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > minimise >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > mistake. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > not >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > to say afraid of failure but minimise it to achieve >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > success >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > faster >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > than >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > people before them. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> haha .. if failure is an option for losers, I wonder >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> how >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> silicon >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> valley able to come into being .. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> the camp where failure is not an option unable to find >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> their >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> own >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> path. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> chasing others, but not lead. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> ah well ... i know where y'all come from, so arguing is >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> pointless >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> anyway >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> .. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> better for me to focus in the current angle which I've >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> chosen >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> and >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> see >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> how far stuff will go .. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> peace be upon all of you >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:14 AM, rafe azsnal >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> <azs...@gmail.com> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > failure is an option... YES most of us do learn >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > when >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > fail.. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > why >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > should it be that way, centuries and eon we still >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > at >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > that >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > par? >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > live >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > by choices and that is something that the ALL >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > MIGHT >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > has >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > given >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > us... >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > learn and we adapt and choose not to fail, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > champion >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > or >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > not >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > if >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > are >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > willing to share the experience and knowledge you >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > can >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > actually >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > minimize the failure and may not fail at all. i >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > may >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > not >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > speak >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > for >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > all >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> it is because we have come to the point that we fear >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> failure, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> that >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> we >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> became afraid to diverge from the norm. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but i speak for myself where failure is not longer >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > an >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > option >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > consider. why are we still having meeting, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > discussion, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > roundtable, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > champion, experience people and all those thing if >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > failure >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > is >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > something to consider yet again? I don't ask for a >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > complete >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > perfection >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > bro.. but i would like to see it that way. who >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > doesn't >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > right? >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > my >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > humble request is only to see it happen and effort >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > make >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > it >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > happen.. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but what ever it is you still have the right to >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > think >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > how >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > ever >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > want it to be and the right to voice what ever >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > that >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > want >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > it >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > be... >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM, rafe azsnal >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <azs...@gmail.com> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Red1, AJ, Raja and the rest, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> what must we or them make mistake twice? or oven >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> over >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> again?? >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> isn't the purpose of having the "Champion" or >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Industry >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Capable >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Individual" to guide and teach to those who need >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> it? >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> this >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> is >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> why >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> you >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> are here reason being why they or we need people >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> like >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> YOU. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> none >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> the >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> less no one is perfect but perfection is made by >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> those >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> have >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> experience it. share those experience for those >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> need >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> it >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> work >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> together to achieve the goals... >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure and mistakes are blessings in disguise, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "champions" >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> can >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only guide, but not guarantee success. true >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> perfection >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> happens >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> after thousands of failures. perfection without >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> belongs >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> to The Creator. don't fear failure, go ahead and >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> fail, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> learn >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> from >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> it, like many of us. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 後はあなたの決めることよ >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ato wa , anata no kimeru koto yo. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the rest, its up for you to decide >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> p/s: keep up the work, /me going to approach at a >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> different >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> angle. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> politics is not my game. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> but that is me with my two cents idea.. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> regards, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> //rafe >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sabrina Lim >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> <sabr...@stronium.com> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Hey guys, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Good to know that you guys are very passionate >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> what >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> you >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> do. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> This >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> is >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> something that I personally would love to see >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> and >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> help >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> make >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> a >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> difference >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in our own country and subsequently, worldwide. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Let's keep our passion burning and keep >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> striving >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> for >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> the >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> regardless >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> of circumstances. Working together towards >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> achieving a >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> shared >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> goal. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's been a pleasure to know you guys. All the >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sabrina >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Well said raja! >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> On 13/09/2009, Raja Iskandar Shah >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> aj / red1 >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> concern on developers noted. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebab tu, saya mencadangkan supaya kita ambil >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> projek >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> rumah >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anak >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yatim >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> ulu >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> gadong sebagai salah satu program perintis. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> situ >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kita >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> boleh >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> cungkil >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> apa >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yg kelab perlu buat untuk ubah manusia biasa >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kepada >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> seorang >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> world >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> class >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> open >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> source developer. kita perlukan juga >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> linuxvarisit >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di peringkat ipta. perlukan juga adempiere >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> coe >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> peringkat industri. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> saya, red1 dan aj mempunyai pengalaman, idea >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dan >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> bias >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tersendiri >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> berkaitan >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> membimbing open source developers - tapi kami >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perlu >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> take a >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> step >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> backward >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> let the club make the mistakes, errors, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> failures, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> heartaches, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> successes >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> that each one of us have already done. sebab >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kami >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> juga >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tidak >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> mempunyai >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> the >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perfect answer - kami sendiri juga perlu >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> belajar >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anda >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> semua >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> terutama >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari generasi muda dan belia. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:18 AM, red1 >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> <r...@red1.org> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> (sidenote - do not use ???? <-- it is >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> spammy!!!! >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Only >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ? >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> will >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> do! :) >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ) >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Ok, the things that i feel we have achieved >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> in >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> first >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> hundred >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> days are: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 1. I realised who can eat the most goat at >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Saba >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> arabic >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> restaurant >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> during >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> berbuka puasa >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 2. I got to know alot of great open source >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> enthusiasts, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> experts, >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> supporters and developers, but not many >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> famous >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> contributors >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> like >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> man >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> with the goat :) >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 3. I get to know that MDec can be exploited >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> to >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> help >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> us. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 4. OSDC is on its way to formation and >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> establishing >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> as >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> champion of >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> FOSS on a formal and institutional way. >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 5. I know where to go to get good free >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> makan! >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> red1 >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > Apa yang telah kita capai???? >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> -- >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Sent from my mobile device >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >> 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>>>> >> >>> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> > > >>>> >> >>> >> > >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> -- >>>> >> >>> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >>>> >> >>> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >>>> >> >>> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >>>> >> >>> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >>>> >> >>> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >>>> >> >>> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> -- >>>> >> >>> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >>>> >> >>> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >>>> >> >>> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >>>> >> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >>>> >> >>> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >>>> >> >>> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > -- >>>> >> > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >>>> >> > Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >>>> >> > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >>>> >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >>>> >> > http://blog.kagesenshi.org >>>> >> > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >>>> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >>>> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >>>> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >>>> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >>>> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >>>> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >>>> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >>>> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >>>> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの 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