On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: > so what the hack with gula-gula hack? > apa kena mengena dgn nasa atau fbi tu? > > sorry dude, upstream its not place for me. if your project is for FBI and > NASA, good for you then. > > maybe our place is not your playground. we only help small community. > anak-anak yatim and etc. > > if you always have copy paste error... i do hope you didn't just COPY and > PASTE your UPSTREAM code and at the end, all are wrong. haha. > > btw don't blame TM. they have nothing to do with park domain. you should > learn about parkdomain before blaim TM. same goes with everything, dont just > simply blame others for your mistake.
well .. before this they simply fail saying "Nonexistent Domain" .. but now they direct stuff to some weird sites .. not sure on other dns server though .. as I dont get that on my current dns server .. > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > are u kiddin me with those website? >> > hahaha... all are parkdomain site. earning adsense from those search and >> > domain name keyword... it that an upstream project? >> > what a lame dude! >> >> >> haha .. my bad .. I simply typed it our of memory .. it should be >> >> http://www.nasa.gov/ >> http://www.fbi.org/ >> >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > it's good for you then. but shame you company didnt even use your >> >> > upstream >> >> > project instead use others. >> >> > http://www.inigo-tech.com/technologies >> >> >> >> www.fbi.org >> >> www.nasa.org >> >> >> >> and many others ... >> >> >> >> the upstream is not Inigo , the upstream is Plone, FreeBSD, Ubuntu, >> >> Fedora. >> >> >> >> > >> >> > then u should fight for your upstream with you partner 1st before >> >> > poke >> >> > others >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >> <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> >> > <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> sure. that's why there are people yang take care the downstream >> >> >> >> aka >> >> >> >> local >> >> >> >> nie. wlpn xsepopular upstream. if semua buat upstream; seumpama >> >> >> >> semua >> >> >> >> org >> >> >> >> nak jd kaya, kerja hebat2 dan xde org nak keje cuci sampah, so >> >> >> >> kotor >> >> >> >> la >> >> >> >> tempat2 local nie. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > for each their strength and weaknesses. I want to pull people to >> >> >> > upstream, but they refused. So I guess this place is not my game. >> >> >> > Would be better to just let this one flow and see where they lead >> >> >> > themselves to. >> >> >> >> >> >> and what upstream flows downstream , rather than just helping a >> >> >> specific group of downstream, i choose to have my stuff flow to >> >> >> other >> >> >> downstreams on other places by contributing upstream. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Of course, i'll poke once a while looking for anyone who want to >> >> >> > go >> >> >> > upstream. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> everything is up to individual and their capabilities. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >> >> <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> >> >>> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> > what the point reveal to you? >> >> >> >>> > i dont neither know nor like you anyway. haha. please go back >> >> >> >>> > to >> >> >> >>> > coding. >> >> >> >>> > maybe it's good for 'upstream'. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> haha .. the same applies to here .. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> yup,its good for upstream. What good for upstream is good for >> >> >> >>> the >> >> >> >>> rest >> >> >> >>> of the world, what good for downstream(local) only good for >> >> >> >>> locals. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > :) >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >> >>> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >>> > wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> >> >>> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> > i do know my self. but refer back to your previous reply, >> >> >> >>> >> > you >> >> >> >>> >> > said >> >> >> >>> >> > you >> >> >> >>> >> > know >> >> >> >>> >> > where i come from but i didnt know you before. so maybe you >> >> >> >>> >> > can >> >> >> >>> >> > explain >> >> >> >>> >> > about it. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> if the owner himself refused to reveal .. then why should I ? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> no point continuing this silly thread .. /me goes back to >> >> >> >>> >> coding >> >> >> >>> >> .. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >> >>> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >>> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> >> >>> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> > so where i come from? can you give detail or my history? >> >> >> >>> >> >> > i >> >> >> >>> >> >> > will be >> >> >> >>> >> >> > please if >> >> >> >>> >> >> > you can share my story to the world. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> the best person to answer that is the body owner himself >> >> >> >>> >> >> .. >> >> >> >>> >> >> look >> >> >> >>> >> >> into >> >> >> >>> >> >> the mirror .. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >> >>> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > i dont think you get the message. it's not meant for >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > you. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> my message was not meant for you too, but for the list >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> .. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> look at >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> To: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> header >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > i just share word of wisdom that i apply for years. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > get >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > info >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > learn >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > exp from other people is more important before i'm >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > doing >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > business >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > or >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > other >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > things. otherwise, it will drain lots of money, time >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > other >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > resources. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> like i said, I know where you come from ... >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Nasrul Amri >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Samsudin >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > +100 Rafe! >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Failure sure an OPTION for looser! >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Jika kita pernah kenal rakan yang sudah pernah >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > masuk >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > longkang, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > jatuh, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > tunggang terbalik, why must we do the same things? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > We >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > can >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > always >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > get >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > advice >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > from them to avoid those thing! >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Winner learn from other experience and knowledge >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > minimise >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > mistake. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > to say afraid of failure but minimise it to >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > achieve >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > success >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > faster >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > than >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > people before them. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> haha .. if failure is an option for losers, I wonder >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> how >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> silicon >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> valley able to come into being .. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> the camp where failure is not an option unable to >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> find >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> their >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> own >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> path. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> chasing others, but not lead. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> ah well ... i know where y'all come from, so arguing >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> pointless >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> anyway >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> .. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> better for me to focus in the current angle which >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> I've >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> chosen >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> see >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> how far stuff will go .. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> peace be upon all of you >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:14 AM, rafe azsnal >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> <azs...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > failure is an option... YES most of us do learn >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > when >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > fail.. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > why >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > should it be that way, centuries and eon we >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > still >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > at >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > that >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > par? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > live >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > by choices and that is something that the ALL >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > MIGHT >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > has >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > given >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > us... >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > learn and we adapt and choose not to fail, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > champion >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > or >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > if >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > are >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > willing to share the experience and knowledge >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > can >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > actually >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > minimize the failure and may not fail at all. i >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > may >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > speak >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > for >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > all >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> it is because we have come to the point that we >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> fear >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> failure, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> we >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> became afraid to diverge from the norm. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but i speak for myself where failure is not >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > longer >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > an >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > option >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > consider. why are we still having meeting, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > discussion, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > roundtable, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > champion, experience people and all those thing >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > if >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > failure >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > is >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > something to consider yet again? I don't ask >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > for a >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > complete >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > perfection >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > bro.. but i would like to see it that way. who >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > doesn't >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > right? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > my >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > humble request is only to see it happen and >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > effort >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > make >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > happen.. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but what ever it is you still have the right to >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > think >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > how >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > ever >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > want it to be and the right to voice what ever >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > that >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > want >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > be... >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM, rafe azsnal >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <azs...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Red1, AJ, Raja and the rest, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> what must we or them make mistake twice? or >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> oven >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> over >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> again?? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> isn't the purpose of having the "Champion" or >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Industry >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Capable >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Individual" to guide and teach to those who >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> need >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> it? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> this >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> is >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> why >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> you >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> are here reason being why they or we need >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> people >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> like >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> YOU. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> none >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> the >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> less no one is perfect but perfection is made >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> by >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> those >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> have >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> experience it. share those experience for >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> those >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> need >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> it >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> work >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> together to achieve the goals... >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure and mistakes are blessings in >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> disguise, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "champions" >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> can >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only guide, but not guarantee success. true >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> perfection >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> happens >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> after thousands of failures. perfection >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> without >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> belongs >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> to The Creator. don't fear failure, go ahead >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> fail, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> learn >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> from >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> it, like many of us. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 後はあなたの決めることよ >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ato wa , anata no kimeru koto yo. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the rest, its up for you to decide >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> p/s: keep up the work, /me going to approach >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> at a >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> different >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> angle. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> politics is not my game. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> but that is me with my two cents idea.. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> regards, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> //rafe >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sabrina Lim >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> <sabr...@stronium.com> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Hey guys, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Good to know that you guys are very >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> passionate >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> what >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> you >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> do. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> This >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> is >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> something that I personally would love to >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> see >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> and >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> help >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> make >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> a >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> difference >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in our own country and subsequently, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> worldwide. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Let's keep our passion burning and keep >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> striving >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> for >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> the >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> regardless >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> of circumstances. Working together towards >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> achieving a >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> shared >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> goal. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's been a pleasure to know you guys. All >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> the >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Best regards, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sabrina >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Well said raja! >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> On 13/09/2009, Raja Iskandar Shah >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> aj / red1 >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> concern on developers noted. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebab tu, saya mencadangkan supaya kita >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> ambil >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> projek >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> rumah >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anak >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yatim >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> ulu >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> gadong sebagai salah satu program >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> situ >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kita >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> boleh >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> cungkil >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> apa >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yg kelab perlu buat untuk ubah manusia >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> biasa >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kepada >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> seorang >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> world >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> class >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> open >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> source developer. kita perlukan juga >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> linuxvarisit >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di peringkat ipta. perlukan juga adempiere >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> coe >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> peringkat industri. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> saya, red1 dan aj mempunyai pengalaman, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> idea >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dan >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> bias >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tersendiri >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> berkaitan >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> membimbing open source developers - tapi >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kami >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perlu >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> take a >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> step >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> backward >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> let the club make the mistakes, errors, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> failures, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> heartaches, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> successes >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> that each one of us have already done. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebab >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kami >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> juga >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tidak >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> mempunyai >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> the >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perfect answer - kami sendiri juga perlu >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> belajar >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anda >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> semua >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> terutama >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari generasi muda dan belia. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:18 AM, red1 >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> <r...@red1.org> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> (sidenote - do not use ???? <-- it is >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> spammy!!!! >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Only >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> will >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> do! :) >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ) >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Ok, the things that i feel we have >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> achieved >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> in >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> first >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> hundred >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> days are: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 1. I realised who can eat the most goat >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> at >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Saba >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> arabic >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> restaurant >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> during >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> berbuka puasa >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 2. I got to know alot of great open >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> source >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> enthusiasts, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> experts, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> supporters and developers, but not many >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> famous >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> contributors >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> like >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> man >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> with the goat :) >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 3. I get to know that MDec can be >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> exploited >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> to >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> help >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> us. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 4. OSDC is on its way to formation and >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> establishing >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> as >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> champion of >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> FOSS on a formal and institutional way. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 5. I know where to go to get good free >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> makan! >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> red1 >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > Apa yang telah kita capai???? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> -- >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Sent from my mobile device >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> 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