hi all, to widen this discussion....
Personally, I'm against certification as the SOLE means of selection, maybe its because of our over emphasis of A's in exams, that produced 'qualified' but incompetent personnel. Also perhaps of the many MCSE's out there, who are trained to click buttons... and setup servers with security holes. On the other hand, i can understand employers and HR departments needs, at least in using certification as the 1st level filtering process. However a knowledgeable interviewer will very quickly sort out how much the interviewee knows about Linux or programming. Both of these are practical skills, and experience counts, especially when they have encountered problems, solved them ad learnt from it. Unfortunately, for organizations that are going into FLOSS for the first time, may not have the expertise to conduct interviews for FLOSS personal. Perhaps we can borrow some techniques form another hands-on skilled based profession, airline pilots. Pilots are required to keep a log book, especially during their 'training' period, where they record the no. hours flown, the routes that they flew and problems that they may have encountered. Perhaps Linux sysadmins should do the same, keep a log of the servers they setup, distro, disk partitions & file system setup, software installed, backup systems used etc... If Linux professional were to do this, then its very easy for a prospective employer to asses his capabilities. A possible solution here could be for more experienced OSDC members to provide consultancy to employers to help select candidates. They will need to discuss with and understand the employers needs and even come out with a strategy for migrating and deploying FLOSS. I'm sure there are enough experienced personal within OSDC ... Also, as this is a hands on skill, one of the procedures for a job assessment may be to give a test, e.g. to actually setup a server, to a given specification - ie: RAID, with user quotas, setting up user accounts and privileges, Apache with virtual hosts, a LAMP stack etc... Perhaps OSDC can play a role by defining the format for such a Log Book, or set up specifications for a practical test like setting up a server as in above example. Then OSDC will begin to play a more meaningful and respectable role, almost like a professional body, which other national IT organizations in Malaysia have not done ... A lot of ideas here, not easy to do/implement, but would help move the adoption of OSS forward, more than just a bunch of certificates. On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do agree. Most of the veteran may not go for certification. Experience > do give them the advantages over younger generation. > > Certification do help us in determine which to pick from thousand of > graduates. > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte > <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Not many people agree on certification. >> >> It doesn't help if local OSS veteran/otai often puts down the need for >> certification. >> >> Eric >> > > -- > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group > http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information > > MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ > -- #------- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/