work together ; share together r u willing to share? azhar
2011/4/2 Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> > hi, > > A public blog may be a good idea, but it is not always appropriate. > Sometimes you need to keep config details of a specific server, > especially a clients server. Examles of things you may not wanna show > on a public blog is details of Apache config, or a DB (Postgres or > MySQL) config; but you may want to keep this information somewhere for > private/support use. This is especially true if you are supporting a > few servers. Hence I find a personal logbook is useful. > > But you would not want to show all the logbook details to a party > other than your client either. > > > > On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel > <linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I always ask staff thats work with me to blog, any tasks that I had > > given to then. Its not only for future reference's and knowledge > > sharing. Its like a log book for me to review their work. > > > > We can start the log book by asking them to have blog or own website > > to be refer to. > > > > Another way to do this is to have them attending OSS workshop for > > example by HackerspaceKL or any OSS community. We can review them > > during the events. > > > > On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> hi all, > >> > >> to widen this discussion.... > >> > >> Personally, I'm against certification as the SOLE means of selection, > >> maybe its because of our over emphasis of A's in exams, that produced > >> 'qualified' but incompetent personnel. Also perhaps of the many MCSE's > >> out there, who are trained to click buttons... and setup servers with > >> security holes. > >> > >> On the other hand, i can understand employers and HR departments > >> needs, at least in using certification as the 1st level filtering > >> process. > >> > >> However a knowledgeable interviewer will very quickly sort out how > >> much the interviewee knows about Linux or programming. Both of these > >> are practical skills, and experience counts, especially when they have > >> encountered problems, solved them ad learnt from it. Unfortunately, > >> for organizations that are going into FLOSS for the first time, may > >> not have the expertise to conduct interviews for FLOSS personal. > >> > >> Perhaps we can borrow some techniques form another hands-on skilled > >> based profession, airline pilots. Pilots are required to keep a log > >> book, especially during their 'training' period, where they record the > >> no. hours flown, the routes that they flew and problems that they may > >> have encountered. Perhaps Linux sysadmins should do the same, keep a > >> log of the servers they setup, distro, disk partitions & file system > >> setup, software installed, backup systems used etc... If Linux > >> professional were to do this, then its very easy for a prospective > >> employer to asses his capabilities. > >> > >> A possible solution here could be for more experienced OSDC members to > >> provide consultancy to employers to help select candidates. They will > >> need to discuss with and understand the employers needs and even come > >> out with a strategy for migrating and deploying FLOSS. I'm sure there > >> are enough experienced personal within OSDC ... > >> > >> Also, as this is a hands on skill, one of the procedures for a job > >> assessment may be to give a test, e.g. to actually setup a server, to > >> a given specification - ie: RAID, with user quotas, setting up user > >> accounts and privileges, Apache with virtual hosts, a LAMP stack > >> etc... > >> > >> Perhaps OSDC can play a role by defining the format for such a Log > >> Book, or set up specifications for a practical test like setting up a > >> server as in above example. Then OSDC will begin to play a more > >> meaningful and respectable role, almost like a professional body, > >> which other national IT organizations in Malaysia have not done ... > >> > >> A lot of ideas here, not easy to do/implement, but would help move the > >> adoption of OSS forward, more than just a bunch of certificates. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel > >> <linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Do agree. Most of the veteran may not go for certification. Experience > >>> do give them the advantages over younger generation. > >>> > >>> Certification do help us in determine which to pick from thousand of > graduates. > >>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte > >>> <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Not many people agree on certification. > >>>> > >>>> It doesn't help if local OSS veteran/otai often puts down the need for > >>>> certification. > >>>> > >>>> Eric > >>>> > >>> > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group > http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information > > > > MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ > > > > > > -- > #------- > regds, > > Boh Heong, Yap > > -- > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group > http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information > > MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ > -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
