I always ask staff thats work with me to blog, any tasks that I had
given to then. Its not only for future reference's and knowledge
sharing. Its like a log book for me to review their work.

We can start the log book by asking them to have blog or own website
to be refer to.

Another way to do this is to have them attending OSS workshop for
example by HackerspaceKL or any OSS community. We can review them
during the events.

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi all,
>
> to widen this discussion....
>
> Personally, I'm against certification as the SOLE means of selection,
> maybe its because  of our over emphasis of A's in exams, that produced
> 'qualified' but incompetent personnel. Also perhaps of the many MCSE's
> out there, who are trained to click buttons... and setup servers with
> security holes.
>
> On the other hand, i can understand employers and HR departments
> needs, at least in using certification as the 1st level filtering
> process.
>
> However a knowledgeable interviewer will very quickly sort out how
> much the interviewee knows about Linux or programming. Both of these
> are practical skills, and experience counts, especially when they have
> encountered problems, solved them ad learnt from it. Unfortunately,
> for organizations that are going into FLOSS for the first time, may
> not have the expertise to conduct interviews for FLOSS personal.
>
> Perhaps we can borrow some techniques form another hands-on skilled
> based profession, airline pilots. Pilots are required to keep a log
> book, especially during their 'training' period, where they record the
> no. hours flown, the routes that they flew and problems that they may
> have encountered. Perhaps Linux sysadmins should do the same, keep a
> log of the servers they setup, distro, disk partitions & file system
> setup, software installed, backup systems used etc...   If Linux
> professional were to do this, then its very easy for a prospective
> employer  to asses his capabilities.
>
> A possible solution here could be for more experienced OSDC members to
> provide consultancy to employers to help select candidates. They will
> need to discuss with and understand the employers needs and even come
> out with a strategy for migrating and deploying FLOSS. I'm sure there
> are enough experienced personal within OSDC ...
>
> Also, as this is a hands on skill, one of the procedures for a job
> assessment may be to give a test, e.g. to actually setup a server, to
> a given specification - ie: RAID, with user quotas, setting up user
> accounts and privileges, Apache with virtual hosts, a LAMP stack
> etc...
>
> Perhaps OSDC can play a role by defining the format for such a Log
> Book, or set up specifications for a practical test like setting up a
> server as in above example. Then OSDC will begin to play a more
> meaningful and respectable role, almost like a professional body,
> which other national IT organizations in Malaysia have not done ...
>
> A lot of ideas here, not easy to do/implement, but would help move the
> adoption of OSS forward, more than just a bunch of certificates.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> <linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Do agree. Most of the veteran may not go for certification. Experience
>> do give them the advantages over younger generation.
>>
>> Certification do help us in determine which to pick from thousand of 
>> graduates.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>> <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Not many people agree on certification.
>>>
>>> It doesn't help if local OSS veteran/otai often puts down the need for
>>> certification.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>

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