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Hi,
I have to say it makes me so ANGRY when I see discussions like
this.
Did you know that an astouding 83% of breech babies
turn quickly after giving the mother relaxation through
Hypnosis. 83%!
Imagine if someone cared enough for that mother, to bother giving her
some deep relaxation and guided visualization. Sigh.
Oh well..more power to the C-Section.
Frank
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-------Original Message-------
Date: Thursday,
November 21, 2002 20:06:45
Subject: Re:
[ozmidwifery] birth and the power of the mind
Hello You all,
It was a time I wasn't on the list, but
again I joined your interesting
conversation.
The discussion about
fear and having a previous c-section is very actual for
me now. I have
a mother who is now 42 weeks and preparing for c-section. She
has had
one with her first for breech position. She had an elective cesarian
at
39 weeks. We have done now all we could to help her to at least
start
labour. She wanted so hard to feel contractions, so that she once
felt how
it is and also for the baby to be prepared. We used
bachflowers, homeopathy,
footmassage with essential oils and a lot of
talking, helping her with her
feelings, giving warmth and
support.
Yesterday she was with the gyn and she told her that she has a
lot of women
with a first cesarian that aren't going in labor with the
next pregnancy.
She thought that the scar could be the cause, because
of cutting some
nerves. That messages from the muscles of the womb
couldn't reach the cervix
anymore. Has anyone heard of this?
I think
that fear is the reason here. Fear to fail.
Warm
greetings
Lieve
On 21-11-2002 00:59, "Andrea
Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi Jo,
>
> Fear has a major impact on the
progress of labour because it interferes
> with the natural flow of
hormones. Rather than explain it all here, you
> might like to read
about this at:
>
> http://www.birthinternational.com/articles/painlabour.html
>
> I believe that one of the main reasons that women wanting a
vaginal birth
> after caesarean have slow labour is due to
unresolved fear, perhaps of
> "failure to peform" again. Many women
are left with the distinct impression
> (or perhaps are told
directly) that their body didn't work "properly" the
> last time
because it was "too small", "failed to progress" etc. This is a
>
major challenge to one's capacity as a woman and may well impact on her
in
> a negative way. I feel sure that the unwillingness to have
one's ability
> put on the line again and face potential emotional
trauma if "failure"
> occurs again, may underlie many women's
acceptance of an elective caesarean
> for subsequent births.
>
> The other major factor of course, is the attitudes of the
caregivers
> (midwives and doctors) who are with her during the next
birth. I've seen a
> midwife ask the woman during a VE "How far did
you get last time?" and when
> the woman answered "5 cms", the
midwife nodded with a knowing look on her
> face - the woman was 5
cms at the time. The midwife then went out and
> organised for the
registrar to get ready for a caesar. It was funny (sad?)
> to watch
the staff valiantly trying to get her shaved and prepped while the
>
baby was being pushed out a short while later!!!
>
> I did
hear a very funny story in a workshop the other day when we were
>
discussing the labelling of woman as "a trial of scar". One midwife
said
> that hat her hospital they just write "TOS" on the front of
the file.
> Another midwife said "does that make the doctor who will
do the surgery a
> "TOS-SER?" Much mirth.....
>
>
Cheers
>
> Andrea
>
> At 12:59 20/11/2002, Jo
& Dean Bainbridge wrote:
>> I have often thought that the
power of the mind would have a vast impact
>> on labour and so
forth. Haven't 'been there' for too many birth and each
>> has
been with women who were really sure, informed and so forth, but
fear
>> played a HUGE factor in my experiences. Could people
please share their
>> knowledge on how fear can impact (or
doesn't if the case may be) on labour
>> lengths and especially
in regards to vbac.
>
>
> -----
> Andrea
Robertson
> Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in
Childbirth Education
>
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
web: www.birthinternational.com
>
>
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