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Now that's it's lunch time and it's raining outside, I decided to try an
experiment.  I took a document that was created in MS Word with Futura font,
then created a PDF out of it, then ran the Abbyy program, and yes it thought
the font was Arial in the text window in Abbyy. I selected what I wanted to
be a different font, went to the font pull down menu and selected Futura and
then sent it to MS Word, and the text in the document in MS Word was still
Futura.

Now I agree it would have been nice if Abbyy had kept it as Futura, but at
least this way I can still edit the text in MS Word. If I saved it as a jpg,
I would waste more time trying to edit the text there.

Kerry




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Interesting alternative, but...

I tested the same ad with Abbyy and basically it just placed an image of the
PDF in the Word doc. This could have been done for free by saving the PDF as
a jpg.

If there wasn't text over the image, then the text retained its editability.
The problem here is that the original text was in futura, and Abbyy
converted it to Arial.

The concept that a professional designer can send a Word file conversion
(from InDesign, PageMaker, Illustator, etc.) to a client for editing or
other use, and have it look exactly like the original design, has more holes
in it than Swiss cheese.

This is a dilemma for many designers, as I have had clients who don't
understand why I can't just send them a Word file from my creations. It
seems that they have been convinced by the Microsoft Gods that the final
word in document creation is, in fact, Word. That said, many clients who are
mired in arial/times new roman quicksand see no difference or value in font
selection, and simply replace futura with arial.

Ah, the battle between designers and corporate document technicians lives
on. Of course, this is often a contest between egos and money, with staff
unhappy that designers charge $50 to $150 an hour, claiming that the precise
and creative work of designers is an unnecessary expenditure of corporate
pennies. After all, there really isn't any difference between futura and
arial, is there?

Rich

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Another solution is to use a program like Abby Finereader which can convert
your PDF (with graphics) to MS Word. The top end version of this program can
also output to XML.

Kerry


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Quoting Rich Sprague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

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> This is the same old, same old.
> 
> I took an add made in InDeign which had text on top of an image. Then
> I saved a Word doc from the PDF.
> 
> With the print to Adobe PDF version, the image didn't appear in the
> Word doc.
> 
> With the export to PDF version, the image appeared by itself, followed
> by the text.
> 
> In both cases, the text fonts and styles were botched.
> 
> The moral to the story...the PDF format was never intended to be a
> means to convert a page layout-designed document into a Word doc.

Sorry, I didn't read this entire thread, but there are of course other
options that are in many cases better at doing this then Adobe Acrobat. Try
Scansoft

PDFConverter or BCL Jade for example. 

Speaking of such options, has anyone tried and been happy with PDF-XML
programs like CambrdigeDocs? 


 
> Rich
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> Considers that you're lucky, each time I'd tried to save as .doc,
> Acrobat crashs... ;-(
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> I get better results by selecting all texts, and copy-pasting to a
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