The problem here is obviously one of standards.  You're talking about
great shots, where the subject's pose, the focus, exposure, and timing all
come together perfectly.  She's talking about shots that are properly
focused and exposed, and where the main subjects have their eyes open.
Not necessarily incredible works of art, but good, salable photos.

chris


On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

> You cant be serious.  If a photographer gets even a couple good sellable
> shots per 24 exposure roll, he's doing very well. You actually expect to
> get 22 really good sellable shots per 24 exposure roll? That absurd in
> my honest opinion....
> JCO
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:46 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Just one tip
>
>
> I totally agree graywolf, which is why I think my "strike rate" needs
> improving.  At the moment, like I mentioned, I am getting probably 18
> salable images from a roll of 24 exposure film.  Of those, probably 4 of the
> rejects are due to eyes closing/subject moving etc.  The two remaining are
> usually rejects due to being underexposed, or out of focus etc.  Even though
> the bulk of the "rejects" are usually due to the "subject did something the
> photographer has no control over", I still consider this my fault as I
> should be able to "predict" or at least "anticipate" these things, and make
> allowances for it.  I still stand by my original goal - when I get to
> consistentantly producing 22 salable shots per 24 roll, I will be "happy" to
> some degree with my own competency level.  But until then, I still think,
> basically that I'm not worthy of people's $$$$....
>
> tan.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Just one tip
>
>
> > Maybe I should clarify this. I am speaking specifically about event
> photography.
> >
> > graywolf wrote:
> >
> > > You were thinking of works of art, Tanya is thinking of salable
> > > pictures. There is a big difference. Any pro who does not get a salable
> > > picture with every shot except where the subject did something the
> > > photographer has no control over is not very competent.
> >
> >
> > --
> > graywolf
> > http://graywolfphoto.com
> >
> > "You might as well accept people as they are,
> > you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
> >
> >
>

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