On Tue, 31 May 2011 17:47 -0600, "steve harley" <p...@paper-ape.com>
wrote:
> On 2011-05-30 16:51 , Brian Walters wrote:

> 
> > If so, isn't this just handing over the image processing
> > function to software?  Do you go back and 'tweak' the images?
> 
> this is a funny question -- perhaps you don't realize that if you shoot 
> JPEG, you are *absolutely* handing over the image processing function to 
> software (in the camera) and unlike RAW, you can never go back to the
> master


No - I understand that.  What I meant was, if you batch process a lot of
files, is there any real difference to allowing Photoshop to process the
files rather than letting the camera's software do it.  But yes, I also
see the point that you can go back to the original unprocessed file if
you shoot RAW, while with JPG you have what you have.

Thanks for the feedback Steve.




Cheers

Brian

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/



> 
> but no, i don't choose to do major processing at import time (though it 
> is possible)
> 
> and yes i then go through and individually tweak the rendering on every 
> image that interests me; it doesn't take long on the first pass -- it's 
> non-destructive, so i just do rough adjustments to see the image's 
> potential; i can easily refine it or do multiple versions later
> 
> in this first pass i also nix a lot of duds ("9" in Aperture), and do 
> basic batch and individual tagging and "1" (one star) everything i want 
> to give a careful look; later i filter to view only images with one star 
> and above (a virtual method of culling images)
> 
> 
> > or
> >
> > Do you look at the JPG previews to decide which images are the 'Hero
> > Images' (as the late Bruce Fraser called them) and restrict RAW
> > conversion to those?
> 
> i don't do this, but it i do occasionally preview DNG images with 
> Quicklook (so a JPEG is not necessary); i do this when i need to quickly 
> extract one or a few images from a batch (usually to send someone or 
> post to a website)
> 
> 
> > If you batch convert the lot, do you convert to a lossless format (TIFF
> > or PSD)?  There doesn't seem to be much point in converting to JPG - you
> > could do that in camera.
> 
> i do no conversion per se until i export an image (and i export 
> relatively few); what format i export depends on the purpose, but it's 
> usually JPEG, sometimes TIFF or PSD
> 
> 
> > Do you archive your 'second string' images as RAW, or do you convert to
> > JPG and ditch the originals?
> 
> i automatically archive everything as DNG into both master and backup 
> locations (space is cheap)
> 
> 
> > What's the advantages of shooting RAW + JPG?
> 
> imo, very few unless you often need rapid access to JPEGs; i shot 
> RAW+JPEG for a while until i realized i was never using the JPEG and my 
> imports took longer
> 
> 
> > In summary - if you shoot RAW exclusively (or mainly), how do you manage
> > the workflow and still have a life??
> 
> it's much easier than you suggest; it does take some up-front decision 
> making and some practice; it's also worth giving one's workflow a 
> critical review now and then
> 
> using a tool like Aperture or Lightroom makes such a workflow much more 
> efficient, and offers many other benefits, but it can be done without 
> aids if you are very disciplined
> 
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