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Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 25, 2015, at 6:57 AM, knarf <knarftheria...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm not sure exactly what you mean, however humans are animals, great apes to > be exact, and like every other animal on the face of the earth, we have > evolved from ancestors to our current form. > > Cheers, > > frank > > > >> On November 25, 2015 9:41:37 AM EST, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote: >> Do you consider humans to be part of the evolutionary scale? >> >> Alan C >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: knarf >> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 2:28 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: PESO - The Protestor >> >> We were talking about protesters and anti-fur, but you correctly >> surmise >> that I am sympathetic to their cause. And yes, many of the protesters >> we met >> on Sunday are vegans, some of whom we've met at vegan events. >> >> We've discussed my dietary veganism before, and while there are no >> "rules", >> ethical vegans normally take the position that it is wrong to exploit >> animals. For that reason we do not knowingly consume animal products, >> and >> that extends beyond diet. I do not want to use any product that came >> from an >> animal: that includes leather, wool, silk, etc. It gets tricky because >> some >> glues have animal products. Some beer has fish - derived isinglas (a >> foaming agent). Sometimes one really has to research to make sure they >> are >> not unwittingly exploiting animals. >> >> As for my shoes, I mostly wear canvas running shoes (Converse Chuck >> Taylor's >> to be exact) and my dress shoes are synthetic that have the look (but >> not >> cruelty) of leather. >> >> Thanks for asking. >> >> And by "native" we were referring to North America's First Nations >> people , >> the descendants of those who greeted the first Europeans when they >> arrived >> here. We used to call them "Indians" because many early explorers were >> geographically challenged. That term is no longer used as we now >> reserve it >> for those who are actually from the country India. >> >> Cheers, >> >> frank >> >>> On November 25, 2015 2:36:11 AM EST, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote: >>> What about your leather shoes? And what is a native? >>> >>> Alan C >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: knarf >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 7:49 AM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: PESO - The Protestor >>> >>> You said "no store sells fur". I found one that does. I didn't say >> Holt >>> >>> Renfrew in Toronto sells wolf coats. I was making answer to a very >>> specific >>> statement you made. >>> >>> That being said, most wolf fur sold is ~not~ for coats, it's trim. >>> There's >>> every possibility that there are coats in Holt's with wolf trim. And >>> even if >>> there isn't, they do sell fur. That's what the protest was generally >>> about, >>> the sale of any fur. Their placards educated about the fur industry as >>> a >>> whole, including coyote fur, which is far more commonly sold. >>> >>> Why are you getting so hung up on details? Does that diminish the >>> protest >>> for you in some way, if you feel can find a few inaccuracies or >>> inconsistencies? >>> >>> By the way, kudos on playing the "traditional Native lifestyle" card! >>> Now if >>> we really gave a crap about their lifestyle we'd enforce broken >>> treaties and >>> give back stolen lands. >>> >>> BTW most fur isn't trapped by natives. Or from North America. Or even >>> trapped. The vast majority of pelts sold are from European and Asian >>> fur >>> farms. Just so you know... >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> frank >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On November 25, 2015 12:09:49 AM EST, "Daniel J. Matyola" >>> <danmaty...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> They were protesting a store, Frank. What does this site have to do >>>> with the store they were protesting -- or any of the legitimate >> stores >>>> that PETA demonstrates against? >>>> >>>> Quite frankly, there will always be wolves and other species that can >>>> be hunted and used under certain circumstances, especially by native >>>> peoples, Preserving their traditional life style is more important. >>>> Dan Matyola >>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:44 PM, knarf <knarftheria...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> http://www.peterpalms.com/wolf/ >>>>> >>>>> Probably made up by some PETA looney to discredit the fur >>> industry... >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> frank >>>>> >>>>> On November 24, 2015 10:33:59 PM EST, "Daniel J. Matyola" >>>> <danmaty...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> No store sells wolf fur. Pure propaganda. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dan Matyola >>>>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:36 PM, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> I think that's wolf fur. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/23/2015 11:47 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Children are dying of malnutrition; they protest about rodents. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dan Matyola >>>>>>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 7:43 PM, frank theriault >>>>>>>> <knarftheria...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As we walked downtown yesterday we saw a bunch of police cars >> in >>>>>> front >>>>>>>>> of Holt's, a very upscale department store. An animal rights >>>> group >>>>>> was >>>>>>>>> protesting fur in general, but also the fact that Holt's sells >>>> it: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll likely have a gallery later in the week, but until then, >>>> this >>>>>>>>> kind of sums it up: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/11/the-protestor.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fur trim on parkas and coats is unfortunately seeing a >>> resurgence >>>>>>>>> around these parts. I'll keep political thoughts to myself. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> frank >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Science - Questions we may never find answers for. >>>>>>> Religion - Answers we must never question. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly >> above >>>>>> and >>>>>>> follow the directions. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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