Paul, Finally, as to the punishment sought, the complainants apparently wish to > "request a replacement Voting Representative" for the Aura project. > (Because there is a ready replacement, the Aura project itself is not a > candidate for being expelled.)
As far as I can tell, this punishment does not provide a remedy for the > various elements of the complaint. It neither removes my voice from the > mailing list, nor does it remove the influence of Aura from the group. I > am left to imagine, then, that there is some other purpose toward which > this punishment is designed. Maybe it is intended only to be symbolic, or > perhaps it is a stepping-stone toward some other undisclosed end. The complainants should specify how removing me as a Voting Representative > will salve their woes. These comments tell me two very important things: 1. There have been many who have used your technical skills as the basis of an argument for maintaining your status as a voting representative, however you appear to be suggesting that you will still continue to contribute to the FIG, regardless of the outcome of the vote. This tells me that your technical skills should not be taken into account in this discussion, as they will not be lost if you are voted against. 2. It also tells me that even if a majority of the voting representatives of this group vote decide that your behaviour in this group is unacceptable, you will continue to ignore their complaints and continue to behave in exactly the same way as before the vote. I personally believe that this vote is symbolic and will set a benchmark for the level of behaviour that the FIG deems acceptable from their voting members. It is important for the official representatives (i.e. voting members) of the FIG to foster the sort of community they wish the FIG to be. If people see a voting member behaving (in their opinion) badly, they will form that view of the FIG itself. Some may find your behaviour acceptable, but others (including myself) do not, and this reflects on the FIG as a whole. That said, there is still time for you to open a discussion to seek to actually improve things for everyone, rather than simply holding your ground and making careful arguments designed to sway voters to your side. You (and many others!) expect those who find your behaviour unacceptable to change, but you yourself refuse to change to make things easier for them too. It's hard to find a middle ground when you won't come out from behind your walls to negotiate. Thanks, ~Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to php-fig@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/CA%2BCYtpkVhLPfqBu7U6XZaNiv3tgdiiLEAvWo-bSPBX6scdLMiQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.