70.6 is less than 75% (which I believe is 3/4) but the trend has been away from organized religion as a hole, it wont be long before it's below 50%.
I personally stopped going to Church more than 30 years ago, I was raised Roman Catholic, I don't practice anymore ... I got it right!!! On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > (The poll is by Gallop, and they're not too different than Pew....The > bottom line, is that more than three quarters of this Nation identify with > being Christian, and that is fact.....) > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:39 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> I'd trust Pew before a bunch of cowgirls in Houston. >> >> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 12:23:52 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>> >>> >>> http://www.chron.com/life/houston-belief/article/Poll-Nearly-80-percent-of-Americans-say-they-are-2444092.php >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:20 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Christians, which is 80 percent of the Nation >>>> --- >>>> delusion noted. >>>> >>>> The number of Americans who identify as Christian has fallen nearly >>>> eight percentage points in only seven years, according to a new survey. Pew >>>> Research Center found that *71%* of Americans identified as Christian >>>> in 2014 - down from *78%* in 2007. >>>> >>>> and of those 71%, only a small fraction are zionists ... sorta like the >>>> small percentage of muzzies who are radical killiers. >>>> >>>> https://www.facebook.com/United.Syrian.Republic/videos/1730600583840768/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 10:13:59 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No doubt, there are some agencies who are Christian based, who are >>>>> advocating for the refugee program to continue. Thankfully, the majority >>>>> of Christians, which is 80 percent of the Nation, are opposed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:02 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I do know that most Christians are opposed to the resettlement of >>>>>> Syrian Refugees in the United States >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Christian groups break with GOP over Syrian refugees >>>>>> >>>>>> Evangelical Christians, as well as Christians more broadly, are a >>>>>> core group in the Republican electoral base and are among the most >>>>>> passionate advocates for aiding refugees. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> By NAHAL TOOSI <http://www.politico.com/staff/nahal-toosi> >>>>>> >>>>>> 11/17/15 06:24 PM EST >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Updated 11/18/15 08:43 PM EST >>>>>> [image: Republican presidential candidate, former Arkansas Gov. Mike >>>>>> Huckabee speaks at executive committee luncheon during the California GOP >>>>>> fall convention on Friday, Sept. 18, 2015 in Anaheim, Calif. (AP >>>>>> Photo/Chris Carlson)] >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike Huckabee along with other politicians, have worked to gain >>>>>> evangelical support, but may be threatening that by taking a stance >>>>>> against >>>>>> Syrian refugees. | AP Photo >>>>>> >>>>>>> Faith-based groups, who play a key role in resettling refugees to >>>>>>>>> the United States, say they are dismayed by the wave of anti-refugee >>>>>>>>> fervor >>>>>>>>> set off by the Paris terrorist attacks and are urging supporters to >>>>>>>>> contact >>>>>>>>> elected officials on behalf of victims of the Syrian civil war. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Evangelical Christians, as well as Christians more broadly, are a >>>>>>>>> core group in the Republican electoral base and are among the most >>>>>>>>> passionate advocates for aiding refugees. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A push by Republican presidential candidates to ban Syrian >>>>>>>>> refugees "does not reflect what we've been hearing from our >>>>>>>>> constituencies, >>>>>>>>> which are evangelical churches across the country," said Jenny Yang, >>>>>>>>> vice >>>>>>>>> president for advocacy at World Relief, an evangelical organization >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> helps resettle refugees. "Most of the people have been saying we want >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> continue to work with refugees, that what happened in Paris ... >>>>>>>>> doesn’t >>>>>>>>> reflect who refugees are." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Reports that a Syrian migrant may have played a role in last >>>>>>>>> week's attacks in Paris, which killed around 130 people, have set off >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> GOP-led backlash over the Obama administration's plans to admit 10,000 >>>>>>>>> Syrian refugees next year. More than half of U.S. governors have said >>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>> do not want Syrian refugees resettled in their states, while House >>>>>>>>> Speaker >>>>>>>>> Paul Ryan says he wants a vote this week on GOP-drafted legislation >>>>>>>>> to halt >>>>>>>>> the administration's plans. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> World Relief is one of nine not-for-profit organizations, several >>>>>>>>> of them faith-based, that help resettle up to 70,000 refugees from >>>>>>>>> around >>>>>>>>> the world in the United States each year. Others include the U.S. >>>>>>>>> Conference of Catholic Bishops, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee >>>>>>>>> Service, >>>>>>>>> and the Church World Service. Many other faith-based groups, including >>>>>>>>> evangelical Christian organizations, also perform aid work overseas >>>>>>>>> specifically aimed at refugees fleeing conflicts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 151117_Paul_Ryan_AP_1160.jpg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> House likely to vote Thursday on Syrian refugee bill >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> By JAKE SHERMAN >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For Republican presidential contenders such as former Arkansas Gov. >>>>>>>>> Mike Huckabee and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who have been working hard at >>>>>>>>> shoring up evangelical support in a crowded field, harsh words against >>>>>>>>> refugees carries a risk of looking politically opportunistic instead >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> compassionate. Some advocates were particularly shocked when >>>>>>>>> Republican >>>>>>>>> presidential candidate Chris Christie, New Jersey's governor, said >>>>>>>>> that the >>>>>>>>> U.S. should bar Syrian orphaned toddlers if necessary. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "That was offensive. That was mean-spirited," said one advocate >>>>>>>>> with a Christian group that resettles refugees. He added: "it’s >>>>>>>>> disappointing because there have been Republican senators and >>>>>>>>> presidents >>>>>>>>> who have strongly supported this program over the years. There’s a >>>>>>>>> proud >>>>>>>>> tradition in the Republican Party of welcoming those who are fleeing >>>>>>>>> persecution, and this takes the party in a negative direction. It’s >>>>>>>>> easy to >>>>>>>>> pick on vulnerable refugees who have no voice. But there are immigrant >>>>>>>>> groups who have voting power that understand what is going on. They >>>>>>>>> understand that it’s an anti-immigrant message." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Even though many on the Christian right have reservations about >>>>>>>>> immigration overall, and may in particular be unhappy about people who >>>>>>>>> illegally enter the United States, there's long been a recognition >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> refugees fall under a different category. The 11 million Syrians who >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> either fled the Arab country or are displaced within it are dodging >>>>>>>>> terrorist groups such as the Islamic State or the barrel bombs of >>>>>>>>> Syrian >>>>>>>>> President Bashar Assad. Many are elderly, widowed or in need of >>>>>>>>> medical >>>>>>>>> care. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Some Republican candidates have suggested that only Syrians who >>>>>>>>> are Christian be allowed on U.S. soil, something President Barack >>>>>>>>> Obama has >>>>>>>>> blasted as shameful. Yang said many evangelical Christians would also >>>>>>>>> oppose such a religious test, especially because many are eager to >>>>>>>>> share >>>>>>>>> their faith with new arrivals. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The United States so far has admitted roughly 2,100 Syrians since >>>>>>>>> the conflict in the country began in March 2011. To be allowed in, >>>>>>>>> refugees >>>>>>>>> have to undergo the most stringent security checks of any traveler >>>>>>>>> heading >>>>>>>>> to the United States, according to the State Department. Officials >>>>>>>>> from the >>>>>>>>> Obama administration on Tuesday began reaching out to the media and >>>>>>>>> lawmakers in a bid to explain the screening process, which takes an >>>>>>>>> average >>>>>>>>> of 18-24 months. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, faith-based groups have also stepped up their advocacy >>>>>>>>> efforts for refugees. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops >>>>>>>>> released a >>>>>>>>> statement expressing distress over calls by elected officials to halt >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> resettlement program. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 151117_syrian_refugees_AP_1160.jpg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> White House pushes back against GOP on refugees >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> By NAHAL TOOSI >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "These refugees are fleeing terror themselves — violence like we >>>>>>>>> have witnessed in Paris," said the statement by Bishop Eusebio >>>>>>>>> Elizondo, >>>>>>>>> chairman of the conference's committee on migration. "Instead of >>>>>>>>> using this >>>>>>>>> tragedy to scapegoat all refugees, I call upon our public officials >>>>>>>>> to work >>>>>>>>> together to end the Syrian conflict peacefully so the close to 4 >>>>>>>>> million >>>>>>>>> Syrian refugees can return to their country and rebuild their homes. >>>>>>>>> Until >>>>>>>>> that goal is achieved, we must work with the world community to >>>>>>>>> provide >>>>>>>>> safe haven to vulnerable and deserving refugees who are simply >>>>>>>>> attempting >>>>>>>>> to survive." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Since the Paris attacks, World Relief has used a website to urge >>>>>>>>> people to contact their governors to express their support for >>>>>>>>> resettling >>>>>>>>> Syrians. The Anti-Defamation League also has spoken out in favor of >>>>>>>>> helping >>>>>>>>> the Syrian refugees, noting that U.S. wariness to accept Jewish >>>>>>>>> refugees >>>>>>>>> during World War II is an example that must not be repeated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jonathan Greenblatt, the chief executive officer of the ADL and a >>>>>>>>> former Obama aide, stressed that much remains unknown about the Paris >>>>>>>>> attacks, including the exact nature of the allegation that a Syrian >>>>>>>>> migrant >>>>>>>>> was one of the eight or nine attackers. Even if a terrorist posed as a >>>>>>>>> migrant to reach France, it's less likely that the U.S., with oceans >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> protect it and a stricter screening process, faces the same level of >>>>>>>>> dangers, other advocates said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Republicans and Democrats have to tread very carefully here," >>>>>>>>> Greenblatt said. "Faith-based voters are very attentive to these >>>>>>>>> issues. >>>>>>>>> They’re very sensitive to helping those in need." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Joanne Kelsey, assistant director for advocacy with Lutheran >>>>>>>>> Immigration and Refugee Service, said she hoped that the sound and >>>>>>>>> fury >>>>>>>>> over refugees would soon be replaced with reason as Republican >>>>>>>>> lawmakers >>>>>>>>> and officials get more details about how the refugee program works. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "This is a very reactionary time," she said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>> >>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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