I don't think one has to "Regularly Attend" in order to identify as a Christian, or holding Christian principles and tenets dear.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: > That may be true or not, but I can say that I know more people who do not > go to church or temple than do go. Especially people younger than me ... > only time will tell!!! > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I think you're misplaced, and that the trend toward spirituality and >> religion will continue to grow. >> >> I've seen the 70 percent poll, (I think by Pew) but I've also seen >> reputable polls that put the Nation's spirituality as a whole closer to 80 >> percent. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> 70.6 is less than 75% (which I believe is 3/4) but the trend has been >>> away from organized religion as a hole, it wont be long before it's below >>> 50%. >>> >>> I personally stopped going to Church more than 30 years ago, I was >>> raised Roman Catholic, I don't practice anymore ... I got it right!!! >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> (The poll is by Gallop, and they're not too different than Pew....The >>>> bottom line, is that more than three quarters of this Nation identify with >>>> being Christian, and that is fact.....) >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:39 PM, plainolamerican < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'd trust Pew before a bunch of cowgirls in Houston. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 12:23:52 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.chron.com/life/houston-belief/article/Poll-Nearly-80-percent-of-Americans-say-they-are-2444092.php >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:20 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Christians, which is 80 percent of the Nation >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> delusion noted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The number of Americans who identify as Christian has fallen nearly >>>>>>> eight percentage points in only seven years, according to a new survey. >>>>>>> Pew >>>>>>> Research Center found that *71%* of Americans identified as >>>>>>> Christian in 2014 - down from *78%* in 2007. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and of those 71%, only a small fraction are zionists ... sorta like >>>>>>> the small percentage of muzzies who are radical killiers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/United.Syrian.Republic/videos/1730600583840768/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 10:13:59 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No doubt, there are some agencies who are Christian based, who are >>>>>>>> advocating for the refugee program to continue. Thankfully, the >>>>>>>> majority >>>>>>>> of Christians, which is 80 percent of the Nation, are opposed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:02 AM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I do know that most Christians are opposed to the resettlement of >>>>>>>>> Syrian Refugees in the United States >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> Christian groups break with GOP over Syrian refugees >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Evangelical Christians, as well as Christians more broadly, are a >>>>>>>>> core group in the Republican electoral base and are among the most >>>>>>>>> passionate advocates for aiding refugees. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> By NAHAL TOOSI <http://www.politico.com/staff/nahal-toosi> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 11/17/15 06:24 PM EST >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Updated 11/18/15 08:43 PM EST >>>>>>>>> [image: Republican presidential candidate, former Arkansas Gov. >>>>>>>>> Mike Huckabee speaks at executive committee luncheon during the >>>>>>>>> California >>>>>>>>> GOP fall convention on Friday, Sept. 18, 2015 in Anaheim, Calif. (AP >>>>>>>>> Photo/Chris Carlson)] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mike Huckabee along with other politicians, have worked to gain >>>>>>>>> evangelical support, but may be threatening that by taking a stance >>>>>>>>> against >>>>>>>>> Syrian refugees. | AP Photo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Faith-based groups, who play a key role in resettling refugees to >>>>>>>>>>>> the United States, say they are dismayed by the wave of >>>>>>>>>>>> anti-refugee fervor >>>>>>>>>>>> set off by the Paris terrorist attacks and are urging supporters >>>>>>>>>>>> to contact >>>>>>>>>>>> elected officials on behalf of victims of the Syrian civil war. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Evangelical Christians, as well as Christians more broadly, are >>>>>>>>>>>> a core group in the Republican electoral base and are among the >>>>>>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>>>>> passionate advocates for aiding refugees. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A push by Republican presidential candidates to ban Syrian >>>>>>>>>>>> refugees "does not reflect what we've been hearing from our >>>>>>>>>>>> constituencies, >>>>>>>>>>>> which are evangelical churches across the country," said Jenny >>>>>>>>>>>> Yang, vice >>>>>>>>>>>> president for advocacy at World Relief, an evangelical >>>>>>>>>>>> organization that >>>>>>>>>>>> helps resettle refugees. "Most of the people have been saying we >>>>>>>>>>>> want to >>>>>>>>>>>> continue to work with refugees, that what happened in Paris ... >>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t >>>>>>>>>>>> reflect who refugees are." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Reports that a Syrian migrant may have played a role in last >>>>>>>>>>>> week's attacks in Paris, which killed around 130 people, have set >>>>>>>>>>>> off a >>>>>>>>>>>> GOP-led backlash over the Obama administration's plans to admit >>>>>>>>>>>> 10,000 >>>>>>>>>>>> Syrian refugees next year. More than half of U.S. governors have >>>>>>>>>>>> said they >>>>>>>>>>>> do not want Syrian refugees resettled in their states, while House >>>>>>>>>>>> Speaker >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Ryan says he wants a vote this week on GOP-drafted >>>>>>>>>>>> legislation to halt >>>>>>>>>>>> the administration's plans. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> World Relief is one of nine not-for-profit organizations, >>>>>>>>>>>> several of them faith-based, that help resettle up to 70,000 >>>>>>>>>>>> refugees from >>>>>>>>>>>> around the world in the United States each year. Others include >>>>>>>>>>>> the U.S. >>>>>>>>>>>> Conference of Catholic Bishops, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee >>>>>>>>>>>> Service, >>>>>>>>>>>> and the Church World Service. Many other faith-based groups, >>>>>>>>>>>> including >>>>>>>>>>>> evangelical Christian organizations, also perform aid work overseas >>>>>>>>>>>> specifically aimed at refugees fleeing conflicts. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 151117_Paul_Ryan_AP_1160.jpg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> House likely to vote Thursday on Syrian refugee bill >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> By JAKE SHERMAN >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For Republican presidential contenders such as former Arkansas >>>>>>>>>>>> Gov. Mike Huckabee and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who have been working >>>>>>>>>>>> hard at >>>>>>>>>>>> shoring up evangelical support in a crowded field, harsh words >>>>>>>>>>>> against >>>>>>>>>>>> refugees carries a risk of looking politically opportunistic >>>>>>>>>>>> instead of >>>>>>>>>>>> compassionate. Some advocates were particularly shocked when >>>>>>>>>>>> Republican >>>>>>>>>>>> presidential candidate Chris Christie, New Jersey's governor, said >>>>>>>>>>>> that the >>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. should bar Syrian orphaned toddlers if necessary. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "That was offensive. That was mean-spirited," said one advocate >>>>>>>>>>>> with a Christian group that resettles refugees. He added: "it’s >>>>>>>>>>>> disappointing because there have been Republican senators and >>>>>>>>>>>> presidents >>>>>>>>>>>> who have strongly supported this program over the years. There’s a >>>>>>>>>>>> proud >>>>>>>>>>>> tradition in the Republican Party of welcoming those who are >>>>>>>>>>>> fleeing >>>>>>>>>>>> persecution, and this takes the party in a negative direction. >>>>>>>>>>>> It’s easy to >>>>>>>>>>>> pick on vulnerable refugees who have no voice. But there are >>>>>>>>>>>> immigrant >>>>>>>>>>>> groups who have voting power that understand what is going on. They >>>>>>>>>>>> understand that it’s an anti-immigrant message." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Even though many on the Christian right have reservations about >>>>>>>>>>>> immigration overall, and may in particular be unhappy about people >>>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>>> illegally enter the United States, there's long been a recognition >>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> refugees fall under a different category. The 11 million Syrians >>>>>>>>>>>> who have >>>>>>>>>>>> either fled the Arab country or are displaced within it are dodging >>>>>>>>>>>> terrorist groups such as the Islamic State or the barrel bombs of >>>>>>>>>>>> Syrian >>>>>>>>>>>> President Bashar Assad. Many are elderly, widowed or in need of >>>>>>>>>>>> medical >>>>>>>>>>>> care. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Some Republican candidates have suggested that only Syrians who >>>>>>>>>>>> are Christian be allowed on U.S. soil, something President Barack >>>>>>>>>>>> Obama has >>>>>>>>>>>> blasted as shameful. Yang said many evangelical Christians would >>>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>> oppose such a religious test, especially because many are eager to >>>>>>>>>>>> share >>>>>>>>>>>> their faith with new arrivals. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The United States so far has admitted roughly 2,100 Syrians >>>>>>>>>>>> since the conflict in the country began in March 2011. To be >>>>>>>>>>>> allowed in, >>>>>>>>>>>> refugees have to undergo the most stringent security checks of any >>>>>>>>>>>> traveler >>>>>>>>>>>> heading to the United States, according to the State Department. >>>>>>>>>>>> Officials >>>>>>>>>>>> from the Obama administration on Tuesday began reaching out to the >>>>>>>>>>>> media >>>>>>>>>>>> and lawmakers in a bid to explain the screening process, which >>>>>>>>>>>> takes an >>>>>>>>>>>> average of 18-24 months. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, faith-based groups have also stepped up their >>>>>>>>>>>> advocacy efforts for refugees. The U.S. Conference of Catholic >>>>>>>>>>>> Bishops >>>>>>>>>>>> released a statement expressing distress over calls by elected >>>>>>>>>>>> officials to >>>>>>>>>>>> halt the resettlement program. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 151117_syrian_refugees_AP_1160.jpg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> White House pushes back against GOP on refugees >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> By NAHAL TOOSI >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "These refugees are fleeing terror themselves — violence like we >>>>>>>>>>>> have witnessed in Paris," said the statement by Bishop Eusebio >>>>>>>>>>>> Elizondo, >>>>>>>>>>>> chairman of the conference's committee on migration. "Instead of >>>>>>>>>>>> using this >>>>>>>>>>>> tragedy to scapegoat all refugees, I call upon our public >>>>>>>>>>>> officials to work >>>>>>>>>>>> together to end the Syrian conflict peacefully so the close to 4 >>>>>>>>>>>> million >>>>>>>>>>>> Syrian refugees can return to their country and rebuild their >>>>>>>>>>>> homes. Until >>>>>>>>>>>> that goal is achieved, we must work with the world community to >>>>>>>>>>>> provide >>>>>>>>>>>> safe haven to vulnerable and deserving refugees who are simply >>>>>>>>>>>> attempting >>>>>>>>>>>> to survive." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Since the Paris attacks, World Relief has used a website to >>>>>>>>>>>> urge people to contact their governors to express their support for >>>>>>>>>>>> resettling Syrians. The Anti-Defamation League also has spoken out >>>>>>>>>>>> in favor >>>>>>>>>>>> of helping the Syrian refugees, noting that U.S. wariness to >>>>>>>>>>>> accept Jewish >>>>>>>>>>>> refugees during World War II is an example that must not be >>>>>>>>>>>> repeated. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Greenblatt, the chief executive officer of the ADL and >>>>>>>>>>>> a former Obama aide, stressed that much remains unknown about the >>>>>>>>>>>> Paris >>>>>>>>>>>> attacks, including the exact nature of the allegation that a >>>>>>>>>>>> Syrian migrant >>>>>>>>>>>> was one of the eight or nine attackers. Even if a terrorist posed >>>>>>>>>>>> as a >>>>>>>>>>>> migrant to reach France, it's less likely that the U.S., with >>>>>>>>>>>> oceans to >>>>>>>>>>>> protect it and a stricter screening process, faces the same level >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> dangers, other advocates said. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Republicans and Democrats have to tread very carefully here," >>>>>>>>>>>> Greenblatt said. "Faith-based voters are very attentive to these >>>>>>>>>>>> issues. >>>>>>>>>>>> They’re very sensitive to helping those in need." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Joanne Kelsey, assistant director for advocacy with Lutheran >>>>>>>>>>>> Immigration and Refugee Service, said she hoped that the sound and >>>>>>>>>>>> fury >>>>>>>>>>>> over refugees would soon be replaced with reason as Republican >>>>>>>>>>>> lawmakers >>>>>>>>>>>> and officials get more details about how the refugee program works. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "This is a very reactionary time," she said. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>>>> For options & help see >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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