Most Christians are not Zionist, --- and that's a good thing. and like you, don't have a clue what a Zionist even is. --- not everyone is as clueless as you when it comes to zionism.
Christian Zionists believe that the gathering of the Jews in Israel <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gathering_of_Israel> is a prerequisite for the Second Coming <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming> of Jesus. This belief is primarily, although not exclusively, associated with Dispensationalism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism>. The idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged to become Christians, as a means of fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.[5] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-5>[6] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-6>[7] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-7> In 1975, the United Nations General Assembly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly> passed a resolution that designated Zionism as "a form of racism and racial discrimination <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_3379>". Within the context of the Arab–Israeli conflict <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_conflict>, Zionism is viewed by critics as a system that fosters apartheid <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy> and racism. [26] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism#cite_note-26> In 1975 the UN General Assembly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_General_Assembly> passed Resolution 3379, which said "Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination". According to the resolution, "any doctrine of racial differentiation of superiority is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust, and dangerous." The resolution named the occupied territory of Palestine, Zimbabwe, and South Africa as examples of racist regimes. Resolution 3379 was pioneered by the Soviet Union and passed with numerical support from Arab and African states amidst accusations that Israel was supportive of the apartheid regime in South Africa.[155] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism#cite_note-155> The Reformed Church in America <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformed_Church_in_America> at its 2004 General Synod found "the ideology of Christian Zionism and the extreme form of dispensationalism that undergirds it to be a distortion of the biblical message noting the impediment it represents to achieving a just peace in Israel/Palestine."[45] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-45> The Mennonite Church <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mennonite_Church> published an article that referenced what is called the ongoing illegal seizure of additional Palestinian lands by Israeli militants,[46] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-46>[47] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-47> noting that in some churches under the influence of Christian Zionism the "congregations 'adopt' illegal Israeli settlements, sending funds to bolster the defense of these armed colonies." As of September 2007, churches in the USA that have criticized Christian Zionism include the United Methodist Church <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Methodist_Church>, the Presbyterian Church (USA) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presbyterian_Church_(USA)>,[48] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-hartz-48> and the United Church of Christ <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Church_of_Christ>.[49] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-49> On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 4:15:04 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > > Hey Fuckwad, > > As is typical, Progressive Anti-American crap, making up your own > statistice. > > Typical. > > Most Christians are not Zionist, and like you, don't have a clue what a > Zionist even is. > > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:31 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> more than three quarters of this Nation identify with being Christian, >> and that is fact..... >> --- >> 71% zionist asshole. >> >> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 8:24:09 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>> >>> (The poll is by Gallop, and they're not too different than Pew....The >>> bottom line, is that more than three quarters of this Nation identify with >>> being Christian, and that is fact.....) >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:39 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd trust Pew before a bunch of cowgirls in Houston. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 12:23:52 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.chron.com/life/houston-belief/article/Poll-Nearly-80-percent-of-Americans-say-they-are-2444092.php >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:20 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Christians, which is 80 percent of the Nation >>>>>> --- >>>>>> delusion noted. >>>>>> >>>>>> The number of Americans who identify as Christian has fallen nearly >>>>>> eight percentage points in only seven years, according to a new survey. >>>>>> Pew >>>>>> Research Center found that *71%* of Americans identified as >>>>>> Christian in 2014 - down from *78%* in 2007. >>>>>> >>>>>> and of those 71%, only a small fraction are zionists ... sorta like >>>>>> the small percentage of muzzies who are radical killiers. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/United.Syrian.Republic/videos/1730600583840768/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 10:13:59 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No doubt, there are some agencies who are Christian based, who are >>>>>>> advocating for the refugee program to continue. Thankfully, the >>>>>>> majority >>>>>>> of Christians, which is 80 percent of the Nation, are opposed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:02 AM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do know that most Christians are opposed to the resettlement of >>>>>>>> Syrian Refugees in the United States >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> Christian groups break with GOP over Syrian refugees >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Evangelical Christians, as well as Christians more broadly, are a >>>>>>>> core group in the Republican electoral base and are among the most >>>>>>>> passionate advocates for aiding refugees. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> By NAHAL TOOSI <http://www.politico.com/staff/nahal-toosi> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 11/17/15 06:24 PM EST >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Updated 11/18/15 08:43 PM EST >>>>>>>> [image: Republican presidential candidate, former Arkansas Gov. >>>>>>>> Mike Huckabee speaks at executive committee luncheon during the >>>>>>>> California >>>>>>>> GOP fall convention on Friday, Sept. 18, 2015 in Anaheim, Calif. (AP >>>>>>>> Photo/Chris Carlson)] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mike Huckabee along with other politicians, have worked to gain >>>>>>>> evangelical support, but may be threatening that by taking a stance >>>>>>>> against >>>>>>>> Syrian refugees. | AP Photo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Faith-based groups, who play a key role in resettling refugees to >>>>>>>>>>> the United States, say they are dismayed by the wave of >>>>>>>>>>> anti-refugee fervor >>>>>>>>>>> set off by the Paris terrorist attacks and are urging supporters to >>>>>>>>>>> contact >>>>>>>>>>> elected officials on behalf of victims of the Syrian civil war. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Evangelical Christians, as well as Christians more broadly, are >>>>>>>>>>> a core group in the Republican electoral base and are among the >>>>>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>>>> passionate advocates for aiding refugees. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A push by Republican presidential candidates to ban Syrian >>>>>>>>>>> refugees "does not reflect what we've been hearing from our >>>>>>>>>>> constituencies, >>>>>>>>>>> which are evangelical churches across the country," said Jenny >>>>>>>>>>> Yang, vice >>>>>>>>>>> president for advocacy at World Relief, an evangelical organization >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> helps resettle refugees. "Most of the people have been saying we >>>>>>>>>>> want to >>>>>>>>>>> continue to work with refugees, that what happened in Paris ... >>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t >>>>>>>>>>> reflect who refugees are." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Reports that a Syrian migrant may have played a role in last >>>>>>>>>>> week's attacks in Paris, which killed around 130 people, have set >>>>>>>>>>> off a >>>>>>>>>>> GOP-led backlash over the Obama administration's plans to admit >>>>>>>>>>> 10,000 >>>>>>>>>>> Syrian refugees next year. More than half of U.S. governors have >>>>>>>>>>> said they >>>>>>>>>>> do not want Syrian refugees resettled in their states, while House >>>>>>>>>>> Speaker >>>>>>>>>>> Paul Ryan says he wants a vote this week on GOP-drafted legislation >>>>>>>>>>> to halt >>>>>>>>>>> the administration's plans. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> World Relief is one of nine not-for-profit organizations, >>>>>>>>>>> several of them faith-based, that help resettle up to 70,000 >>>>>>>>>>> refugees from >>>>>>>>>>> around the world in the United States each year. Others include the >>>>>>>>>>> U.S. >>>>>>>>>>> Conference of Catholic Bishops, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee >>>>>>>>>>> Service, >>>>>>>>>>> and the Church World Service. Many other faith-based groups, >>>>>>>>>>> including >>>>>>>>>>> evangelical Christian organizations, also perform aid work overseas >>>>>>>>>>> specifically aimed at refugees fleeing conflicts. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 151117_Paul_Ryan_AP_1160.jpg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> House likely to vote Thursday on Syrian refugee bill >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> By JAKE SHERMAN >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For Republican presidential contenders such as former Arkansas >>>>>>>>>>> Gov. Mike Huckabee and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who have been working >>>>>>>>>>> hard at >>>>>>>>>>> shoring up evangelical support in a crowded field, harsh words >>>>>>>>>>> against >>>>>>>>>>> refugees carries a risk of looking politically opportunistic >>>>>>>>>>> instead of >>>>>>>>>>> compassionate. Some advocates were particularly shocked when >>>>>>>>>>> Republican >>>>>>>>>>> presidential candidate Chris Christie, New Jersey's governor, said >>>>>>>>>>> that the >>>>>>>>>>> U.S. should bar Syrian orphaned toddlers if necessary. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "That was offensive. That was mean-spirited," said one advocate >>>>>>>>>>> with a Christian group that resettles refugees. He added: "it’s >>>>>>>>>>> disappointing because there have been Republican senators and >>>>>>>>>>> presidents >>>>>>>>>>> who have strongly supported this program over the years. There’s a >>>>>>>>>>> proud >>>>>>>>>>> tradition in the Republican Party of welcoming those who are >>>>>>>>>>> fleeing >>>>>>>>>>> persecution, and this takes the party in a negative direction. It’s >>>>>>>>>>> easy to >>>>>>>>>>> pick on vulnerable refugees who have no voice. But there are >>>>>>>>>>> immigrant >>>>>>>>>>> groups who have voting power that understand what is going on. They >>>>>>>>>>> understand that it’s an anti-immigrant message." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Even though many on the Christian right have reservations about >>>>>>>>>>> immigration overall, and may in particular be unhappy about people >>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>> illegally enter the United States, there's long been a recognition >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> refugees fall under a different category. The 11 million Syrians >>>>>>>>>>> who have >>>>>>>>>>> either fled the Arab country or are displaced within it are dodging >>>>>>>>>>> terrorist groups such as the Islamic State or the barrel bombs of >>>>>>>>>>> Syrian >>>>>>>>>>> President Bashar Assad. Many are elderly, widowed or in need of >>>>>>>>>>> medical >>>>>>>>>>> care. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Some Republican candidates have suggested that only Syrians who >>>>>>>>>>> are Christian be allowed on U.S. soil, something President Barack >>>>>>>>>>> Obama has >>>>>>>>>>> blasted as shameful. Yang said many evangelical Christians would >>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>> oppose such a religious test, especially because many are eager to >>>>>>>>>>> share >>>>>>>>>>> their faith with new arrivals. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The United States so far has admitted roughly 2,100 Syrians >>>>>>>>>>> since the conflict in the country began in March 2011. To be >>>>>>>>>>> allowed in, >>>>>>>>>>> refugees have to undergo the most stringent security checks of any >>>>>>>>>>> traveler >>>>>>>>>>> heading to the United States, according to the State Department. >>>>>>>>>>> Officials >>>>>>>>>>> from the Obama administration on Tuesday began reaching out to the >>>>>>>>>>> media >>>>>>>>>>> and lawmakers in a bid to explain the screening process, which >>>>>>>>>>> takes an >>>>>>>>>>> average of 18-24 months. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, faith-based groups have also stepped up their >>>>>>>>>>> advocacy efforts for refugees. The U.S. Conference of Catholic >>>>>>>>>>> Bishops >>>>>>>>>>> released a statement expressing distress over calls by elected >>>>>>>>>>> officials to >>>>>>>>>>> halt the resettlement program. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 151117_syrian_refugees_AP_1160.jpg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> White House pushes back against GOP on refugees >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> By NAHAL TOOSI >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "These refugees are fleeing terror themselves — violence like we >>>>>>>>>>> have witnessed in Paris," said the statement by Bishop Eusebio >>>>>>>>>>> Elizondo, >>>>>>>>>>> chairman of the conference's committee on migration. "Instead of >>>>>>>>>>> using this >>>>>>>>>>> tragedy to scapegoat all refugees, I call upon our public officials >>>>>>>>>>> to work >>>>>>>>>>> together to end the Syrian conflict peacefully so the close to 4 >>>>>>>>>>> million >>>>>>>>>>> Syrian refugees can return to their country and rebuild their >>>>>>>>>>> homes. Until >>>>>>>>>>> that goal is achieved, we must work with the world community to >>>>>>>>>>> provide >>>>>>>>>>> safe haven to vulnerable and deserving refugees who are simply >>>>>>>>>>> attempting >>>>>>>>>>> to survive." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Since the Paris attacks, World Relief has used a website to urge >>>>>>>>>>> people to contact their governors to express their support for >>>>>>>>>>> resettling >>>>>>>>>>> Syrians. The Anti-Defamation League also has spoken out in favor of >>>>>>>>>>> helping >>>>>>>>>>> the Syrian refugees, noting that U.S. wariness to accept Jewish >>>>>>>>>>> refugees >>>>>>>>>>> during World War II is an example that must not be repeated. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Greenblatt, the chief executive officer of the ADL and >>>>>>>>>>> a former Obama aide, stressed that much remains unknown about the >>>>>>>>>>> Paris >>>>>>>>>>> attacks, including the exact nature of the allegation that a Syrian >>>>>>>>>>> migrant >>>>>>>>>>> was one of the eight or nine attackers. Even if a terrorist posed >>>>>>>>>>> as a >>>>>>>>>>> migrant to reach France, it's less likely that the U.S., with >>>>>>>>>>> oceans to >>>>>>>>>>> protect it and a stricter screening process, faces the same level >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> dangers, other advocates said. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Republicans and Democrats have to tread very carefully here," >>>>>>>>>>> Greenblatt said. "Faith-based voters are very attentive to these >>>>>>>>>>> issues. >>>>>>>>>>> They’re very sensitive to helping those in need." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Joanne Kelsey, assistant director for advocacy with Lutheran >>>>>>>>>>> Immigration and Refugee Service, said she hoped that the sound and >>>>>>>>>>> fury >>>>>>>>>>> over refugees would soon be replaced with reason as Republican >>>>>>>>>>> lawmakers >>>>>>>>>>> and officials get more details about how the refugee program works. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "This is a very reactionary time," she said. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>>> For options & help see >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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