I try to lead a life by Christian principles and tenets. --- oh ... like promoting laws that make it illegal to feed the hungry but legal for a baker to refuse service based on their religious beliefs, not judging lgbt's, imposing xian beliefs on our government, accepting the stranger and those with different or no religious beliefs, supporting blue laws, the failed war on drugs and the US interventionist policy ...
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours. 9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt. 8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God. 7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees! 6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky. 5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old. 4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving." 3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity. 2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works . And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God. 1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian. On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 4:18:51 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > > Hey Brine, (And Regan!) > > Regan took the words right out of my mouth. I am not Catholic, and was > never taught any such act, or lack of an act was a sin. Moreover, a House > of Worship is to make one feel good, and joyous about life! Under your > diction of worship, it sounds more of a chore. > > No thanks...... > > I don't "Pick & Choose" Brine. I try to lead a life by Christian > principles and tenets. > > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Regan Duffy <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > Grotesque ignorance thy name is Bruce. > > *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* > > > Bruce Majors <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > > I thougt papists were child buggering idolatrous satanists! > > > On Wednesday, December 2, 2015, Regan Duffy <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > You are confusing being a Christian with being Roman Catholic, a > denomination of Christianity. Most Christians are not Catholic. Going to > church on Sundays and other Holy Days of Obligation is not a requirement > for Catholics, participating in the Mass and restful observance of the > Grace of God on those days is. > > *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* > > > Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: > > So your version of being a Christian is like a Chinese Menu ... pick what > you like and ignore what you don't!!! > Part of the Roman Catholic upbringing basically said it was a sin not to > go to church every Sunday and Holy day of Obligation!!! > I stopped attending when it felt more like an attendance contest than > getting anything from the experience!!! > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I don't think one has to "Regularly Attend" in order to identify as a > Christian, or holding Christian principles and tenets dear. > > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: > > That may be true or not, but I can say that I know more people who do not > go to church or temple than do go. Especially people younger than me ... > only time will tell!!! > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I think you're misplaced, and that the trend toward spirituality and > religion will continue to grow. > > I've seen the 70 percent poll, (I think by Pew) but I've also seen > reputable polls that put the Nation's spirituality as a whole closer to 80 > percent. > > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: > > 70.6 is less than 75% (which I believe is 3/4) but the trend has been away > from organized religion as a hole, it wont be long before it's below 50%. > > I personally stopped going to Church more than 30 years ago, I was raised > Roman Catholic, I don't practice anymore ... I got it right!!! > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > wrote: > > (The poll is by Gallop, and they're not too different than Pew....The > bottom line, is that more than three quarters of this Nation identify with > being Christian, and that is fact.....) > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:39 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > > wrote: > > I'd trust Pew before a bunch of cowgirls in Houston. > > On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 12:23:52 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > > > http://www.chron.com/life/houston-belief/article/Poll-Nearly-80-percent-of-Americans-say-they-are-2444092.php > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:20 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Christians, which is 80 percent of the Nation > --- > delusion noted. > > The number of Americans who identify as Christian has fallen nearly eight > percentage points in only seven years, according to a new survey. Pew > Research Center found that *71%* of Americans identified as Christian in > 2014 - down from *78%* in 2007. > > and of those 71%, only a small fraction are zionists ... sorta like the > small percentage of muzzies who are radical killiers. > > https://www.facebook.com/United.Syrian.Republic/videos/1730600583840768/ > > > On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 10:13:59 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > > No doubt, there are some agencies who are Christian based, who are > advocating for the refugee program to continue. Thankfully, the majority > of Christians, which is 80 percent of the Nation, are opposed. > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:02 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I do know that most Christians are opposed to the resettlement of Syrian > Refugees in the United States > --- > Christian groups break with GOP over Syrian refugees > > Evangelical Christians, as well as Christians more broadly, are a core > group in the Republican electoral base and are among the most passionate > advocates for aiding refugees. > > > By NAHAL TOOSI <http://www.politico.com/staff/nahal-toosi> > > 11/17/15 06:24 PM EST > > > Updated 11/18/15 08:43 PM EST > [image: Republican presidential candidate, former Arkansas Gov. Mike > Huckabee speaks at executive committee luncheon during the California GOP > fall convention on Friday, Sept. 18, 2015 in Anaheim, Calif. (AP > Photo/Chris Carlson)] > > Mike Huckabee along with other politicians, have worked to gain > evangelical support, but may be threatening that by taking a stance against > Syrian refugees. | AP Photo > > Faith-based groups, who play a key role in resettling refugees to the > United States, say they are dismayed by the wave of anti-refugee fervor set > off by the Paris terrorist attacks and are urging supporters to contact > elected officials on behalf of victims of the Syrian civil war. > > > Evangelical Christians, as well as Christians more broadly, are a core > group in the Republican electoral base and are among the most passionate > advocates for aiding refugees. > > > > A push by Republican presidential candidates to ban Syrian refugees "does > not reflect what we've been hearing from our constituencies, which are > evangelical churches across the country," said Jenny Yang, vice president > for advocacy at World Relief, an evangelical organization that helps > resettle refugees. "Most of the people have been saying we want to continue > to work with refugees, that what happened in Paris ... doesn’t reflect who > refugees are." > > > Reports that a Syrian migrant may have played a role in last week's > attacks in Paris, which killed around 130 people, have set off a GOP-led > backlash over the Obama administration's plans to admit 10,000 Syrian > refugees next year. More than half of U.S. governors have said they do not > want Syrian refugees resettled in their states, while House Speaker Paul > Ryan says he wants a vote this week on GOP-drafted legislation to halt the > administration's plans. > > > World Relief is one of nine not-for-profit organizations, several of them > faith-based, that help resettle up to 70,000 refugees from around the world > in the United States each year. Others include the U.S. Conference of > Catholic Bishops, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, and the Church > World Service. Many other faith-based groups, including evangelical > Christian organizations, also perform aid work overseas specifically aimed > at refugees fleeing conflicts. > > > 151117_Paul_Ryan_AP_1160.jpg > > House likely to vote Thursday on Syrian refugee bill > > By JAKE SHERMAN > > For Republican presidential contenders such as former Arkansas Gov. Mike > Huckabee and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who have been working hard at shoring up > evangelical support in a crowded field, harsh words against refugees > carries a risk of looking politically opportunistic instead of > compassionate. Some advocates were particularly shocked when Republican > presidential candidate Chris Christie, New Jersey's governor, said that the > U.S. should bar Syrian orphaned toddlers if necessary. > > > "That was offensive. That was mean-spirited," said one advocate with a > Christian group that resettles refugees. He added: "it’s disappointing > because there have been Republican senators and presidents who have > strongly supported this program over the years. There’s a proud tradition > in the Republican Party of welcoming those who are fleeing persecution, and > this takes the party in a negative direction. It’s easy to pick on > vulnerable refugees who have no voice. But there are immigrant groups who > have voting power that understand what is going on. They understand that > it’s an anti-immigrant message." > > > Even though many on the Christian right have reservations about > immigration overall, and may in particular be unhappy about people who > illegally enter the United States, there's long been a recognition that > refugees fall under a different category. The 11 million Syrians who have > either fled the Arab country or are displaced within it are dodging > terrorist groups such as the Islamic State or the barrel bombs of Syrian > President Bashar Assad. Many are elderly, widowed or in need of medical > care. > > > Some Republican candidates have suggested that only Syrians who are > Christian be allowed on U.S. soil, something President Barack Obama has > blasted as shameful. Yang said many evangelical Christians would also > oppose such a religious test, especially because many are eager to share > their faith with new arrivals. > > > The United States so far has admitted roughly 2,100 Syrians since the > conflict in the country began in March 2011. To be allowed in, refugees > have to undergo the most stringent security checks of any traveler heading > to the United States, according to the State Department. Officials from the > Obama administration on Tuesday began reaching out to the media and > lawmakers in a bid to explain the screening process, which takes an average > of 18-24 months. > > > Meanwhile, faith-based groups have also stepped up their advocacy efforts > for refugees. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops released a statement > expressing distress over calls by elected officials to halt the > resettlement program. > > > 151117_syrian_refugees_AP_1160.jpg > > White House pushes back against GOP on refugees > > By NAHAL TOOSI > > "These refugees are fleeing terror themselves — violence like we have > witnessed in Paris," said the statement by Bishop Eusebio Elizondo, > chairman of the conference's committee on migration. "Instead of using this > tragedy to scapegoat all refugees, I call upon our public officials to work > together to end the Syrian conflict peacefully so the close to 4 million > Syrian refugees can return to their country and rebuild their homes. Until > that goal is achieved, we must work with the world community to provide > safe haven to vulnerable and deserving refugees who are simply attempting > to survive." > > > Since the Paris attacks, World Relief has used a website to urge people to > contact their governors to express their support for resettling Syrians. > The Anti-Defamation League also has spoken out in favor of helping the > Syrian refugees, noting that U.S. wariness to accept Jewish refugees during > World War II is an example that must not be repeated. > > > Jonathan Greenblatt, the chief executive officer of the ADL and a former > Obama aide, stressed that much remains unknown about the Paris attacks, > including the exact nature of the allegation that a Syrian migrant was one > of the eight or nine attackers. Even if a terrorist posed as a migrant to > reach France, it's less likely that the U.S., with oceans to protect it and > a stricter screening process, faces the same level of dangers, other > advocates said. > > > "Republicans and Democrats have to tread very carefully here," Greenblatt > said. "Faith-based voters are very attentive to these issues. They’re very > sensitive to helping those in need." > > > Joanne Kelsey, assistant director for advocacy with Lutheran Immigration > and Refugee Service, said she hoped that the sound and fury over refugees > would soon be replaced with reason as Republican lawmakers and officials > get more details about how the refugee program works. > > > "This is a very reactionary time," she said. > > > > -- > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. 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