Since the Roman Catholic Church is the one with direct lineage back to
Peter, all others are bastard versions, so be a happy bastard!!!

I find all organized religion to be a scam!!!

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hey Brine,  (And Regan!)
>
> Regan took the words right out of my mouth.  I am not Catholic, and was
> never taught any such act, or lack of an act was a sin.  Moreover, a House
> of Worship is to make one feel good, and joyous about life!  Under your
> diction of worship, it sounds more of a chore.
>
> No thanks......
>
> I don't "Pick & Choose" Brine.   I try to lead a life by Christian
> principles and tenets.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Regan Duffy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Grotesque ignorance thy name is Bruce.
>>
>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>>
>>
>> Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I thougt papists were child buggering idolatrous satanists!
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 2, 2015, Regan Duffy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> You are confusing being a Christian with being Roman Catholic, a
>>> denomination of Christianity.  Most Christians are not Catholic.  Going to
>>> church on Sundays and other Holy Days of Obligation is not a requirement
>>> for Catholics, participating in the Mass and restful observance of the
>>> Grace of God on those days is.
>>>
>>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> So your version of being a Christian is like a Chinese Menu ... pick
>>> what you like and ignore what you don't!!!
>>> Part of the Roman Catholic upbringing basically said it was a sin not to
>>> go to church every Sunday and Holy day of Obligation!!!
>>> I stopped attending when it felt more like an attendance contest than
>>> getting anything from the experience!!!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think one has to "Regularly Attend" in order to identify as a
>>>> Christian, or holding Christian principles and tenets dear.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That may be true or not, but I can say that I know more people who do
>>>>> not go to church or temple than do go. Especially people younger than me
>>>>> ... only time will tell!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you're misplaced, and that the trend toward spirituality and
>>>>>> religion will continue to grow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've seen the 70 percent poll, (I think by Pew) but I've also seen
>>>>>> reputable polls that put the Nation's spirituality as a whole closer to 
>>>>>> 80
>>>>>> percent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 70.6 is less than 75% (which I believe is 3/4) but the trend has
>>>>>>> been away from organized religion as a hole, it wont be long before it's
>>>>>>> below 50%.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I personally stopped going to Church more than 30 years ago, I was
>>>>>>> raised Roman Catholic, I don't practice anymore ... I got it right!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Keith In Tampa <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (The poll is by Gallop, and they're not too different than
>>>>>>>> Pew....The bottom line, is that more than three quarters of this Nation
>>>>>>>> identify with being Christian, and that is fact.....)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:39 PM, plainolamerican <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd trust Pew before a bunch of cowgirls in Houston.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 12:23:52 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chron.com/life/houston-belief/article/Poll-Nearly-80-percent-of-Americans-say-they-are-2444092.php
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:20 PM, plainolamerican <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Christians, which is 80 percent of the Nation
>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>> delusion noted.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The number of Americans who identify as Christian has fallen
>>>>>>>>>>> nearly eight percentage points in only seven years, according to a 
>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>> survey. Pew Research Center found that *71%* of Americans
>>>>>>>>>>> identified as Christian in 2014 - down from *78%* in 2007.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and of those 71%, only a small fraction are zionists ... sorta
>>>>>>>>>>> like the small percentage of muzzies who are radical killiers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/United.Syrian.Republic/videos/1730600583840768/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 10:13:59 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No doubt, there are some agencies who are Christian based, who
>>>>>>>>>>>> are advocating for the refugee program to continue.  Thankfully, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> majority of Christians, which is 80 percent of the Nation, are 
>>>>>>>>>>>> opposed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:02 AM, plainolamerican <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do know that most Christians are opposed to the resettlement
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Syrian Refugees in the United States
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian groups break with GOP over Syrian refugees
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evangelical Christians, as well as Christians more broadly,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are a core group in the Republican electoral base and are among 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>> passionate advocates for aiding refugees.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> By NAHAL TOOSI <http://www.politico.com/staff/nahal-toosi>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11/17/15 06:24 PM EST
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updated 11/18/15 08:43 PM EST
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Republican presidential candidate, former Arkansas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gov. Mike Huckabee speaks at executive committee luncheon during 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> California GOP fall convention on Friday, Sept. 18, 2015 in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anaheim, Calif.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (AP Photo/Chris Carlson)]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Huckabee along with other politicians, have worked to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain evangelical support, but may be threatening that by taking a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stance
>>>>>>>>>>>>> against Syrian refugees. | AP Photo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Faith-based groups, who play a key role in resettling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees to the United States, say they are dismayed by the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wave of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anti-refugee fervor set off by the Paris terrorist attacks and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are urging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supporters to contact elected officials on behalf of victims 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Syrian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> civil war.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evangelical Christians, as well as Christians more broadly,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are a core group in the Republican electoral base and are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> among the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passionate advocates for aiding refugees.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A push by Republican presidential candidates to ban Syrian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees "does not reflect what we've been hearing from our 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituencies,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which are evangelical churches across the country," said Jenny 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yang, vice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president for advocacy at World Relief, an evangelical 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helps resettle refugees. "Most of the people have been saying 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue to work with refugees, that what happened in Paris 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... doesn’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reflect who refugees are."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reports that a Syrian migrant may have played a role in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last week's attacks in Paris, which killed around 130 people, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have set off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a GOP-led backlash over the Obama administration's plans to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admit 10,000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syrian refugees next year. More than half of U.S. governors 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have said they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not want Syrian refugees resettled in their states, while 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> House Speaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Ryan says he wants a vote this week on GOP-drafted 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legislation to halt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the administration's plans.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> World Relief is one of nine not-for-profit organizations,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several of them faith-based, that help resettle up to 70,000 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around the world in the United States each year. Others 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> include the U.S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conference of Catholic Bishops, Lutheran Immigration and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Refugee Service,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the Church World Service. Many other faith-based groups, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evangelical Christian organizations, also perform aid work 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overseas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically aimed at refugees fleeing conflicts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 151117_Paul_Ryan_AP_1160.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> House likely to vote Thursday on Syrian refugee bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By JAKE SHERMAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Republican presidential contenders such as former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard at shoring up evangelical support in a crowded field, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harsh words
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against refugees carries a risk of looking politically 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunistic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of compassionate. Some advocates were particularly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shocked when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republican presidential candidate Chris Christie, New Jersey's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> governor,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said that the U.S. should bar Syrian orphaned toddlers if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "That was offensive. That was mean-spirited," said one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advocate with a Christian group that resettles refugees. He 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> added: "it’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disappointing because there have been Republican senators and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presidents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who have strongly supported this program over the years. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There’s a proud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tradition in the Republican Party of welcoming those who are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fleeing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persecution, and this takes the party in a negative direction. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s easy to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pick on vulnerable refugees who have no voice. But there are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immigrant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> groups who have voting power that understand what is going on. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand that it’s an anti-immigrant message."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even though many on the Christian right have reservations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about immigration overall, and may in particular be unhappy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who illegally enter the United States, there's long been a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recognition that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees fall under a different category. The 11 million 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syrians who have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either fled the Arab country or are displaced within it are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dodging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terrorist groups such as the Islamic State or the barrel bombs 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Syrian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> President Bashar Assad. Many are elderly, widowed or in need 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of medical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some Republican candidates have suggested that only Syrians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who are Christian be allowed on U.S. soil, something President 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barack Obama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has blasted as shameful. Yang said many evangelical Christians 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oppose such a religious test, especially because many are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eager to share
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their faith with new arrivals.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The United States so far has admitted roughly 2,100 Syrians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since the conflict in the country began in March 2011. To be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed in,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees have to undergo the most stringent security checks of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any traveler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heading to the United States, according to the State 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department. Officials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the Obama administration on Tuesday began reaching out to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and lawmakers in a bid to explain the screening process, which 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average of 18-24 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, faith-based groups have also stepped up their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advocacy efforts for refugees. The U.S. Conference of Catholic 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bishops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> released a statement expressing distress over calls by elected 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halt the resettlement program.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 151117_syrian_refugees_AP_1160.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> White House pushes back against GOP on refugees
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By NAHAL TOOSI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "These refugees are fleeing terror themselves — violence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like we have witnessed in Paris," said the statement by Bishop 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eusebio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elizondo, chairman of the conference's committee on migration. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using this tragedy to scapegoat all refugees, I call upon our 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials to work together to end the Syrian conflict 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peacefully so the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> close to 4 million Syrian refugees can return to their country 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and rebuild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their homes. Until that goal is achieved, we must work with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community to provide safe haven to vulnerable and deserving 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are simply attempting to survive."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since the Paris attacks, World Relief has used a website to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> urge people to contact their governors to express their 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resettling Syrians. The Anti-Defamation League also has spoken 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out in favor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of helping the Syrian refugees, noting that U.S. wariness to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept Jewish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees during World War II is an example that must not be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Greenblatt, the chief executive officer of the ADL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a former Obama aide, stressed that much remains unknown 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Paris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attacks, including the exact nature of the allegation that a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syrian migrant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was one of the eight or nine attackers. Even if a terrorist 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posed as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migrant to reach France, it's less likely that the U.S., with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oceans to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protect it and a stricter screening process, faces the same 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dangers, other advocates said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Republicans and Democrats have to tread very carefully
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here," Greenblatt said. "Faith-based voters are very attentive 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues. They’re very sensitive to helping those in need."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joanne Kelsey, assistant director for advocacy with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, said she hoped that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sound and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fury over refugees would soon be replaced with reason as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republican
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lawmakers and officials get more details about how the refugee 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This is a very reactionary time," she said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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