Hey Brine,  (And Regan!)

Regan took the words right out of my mouth.  I am not Catholic, and was
never taught any such act, or lack of an act was a sin.  Moreover, a House
of Worship is to make one feel good, and joyous about life!  Under your
diction of worship, it sounds more of a chore.

No thanks......

I don't "Pick & Choose" Brine.   I try to lead a life by Christian
principles and tenets.



On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Regan Duffy <[email protected]> wrote:

> Grotesque ignorance thy name is Bruce.
>
> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>
>
> Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> I thougt papists were child buggering idolatrous satanists!
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 2, 2015, Regan Duffy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You are confusing being a Christian with being Roman Catholic, a
>> denomination of Christianity.  Most Christians are not Catholic.  Going to
>> church on Sundays and other Holy Days of Obligation is not a requirement
>> for Catholics, participating in the Mass and restful observance of the
>> Grace of God on those days is.
>>
>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>>
>>
>> Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> So your version of being a Christian is like a Chinese Menu ... pick what
>> you like and ignore what you don't!!!
>> Part of the Roman Catholic upbringing basically said it was a sin not to
>> go to church every Sunday and Holy day of Obligation!!!
>> I stopped attending when it felt more like an attendance contest than
>> getting anything from the experience!!!
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think one has to "Regularly Attend" in order to identify as a
>>> Christian, or holding Christian principles and tenets dear.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That may be true or not, but I can say that I know more people who do
>>>> not go to church or temple than do go. Especially people younger than me
>>>> ... only time will tell!!!
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think you're misplaced, and that the trend toward spirituality and
>>>>> religion will continue to grow.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've seen the 70 percent poll, (I think by Pew) but I've also seen
>>>>> reputable polls that put the Nation's spirituality as a whole closer to 80
>>>>> percent.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 70.6 is less than 75% (which I believe is 3/4) but the trend has been
>>>>>> away from organized religion as a hole, it wont be long before it's below
>>>>>> 50%.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I personally stopped going to Church more than 30 years ago, I was
>>>>>> raised Roman Catholic, I don't practice anymore ... I got it right!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Keith In Tampa <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (The poll is by Gallop, and they're not too different than
>>>>>>> Pew....The bottom line, is that more than three quarters of this Nation
>>>>>>> identify with being Christian, and that is fact.....)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 3:39 PM, plainolamerican <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd trust Pew before a bunch of cowgirls in Houston.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 12:23:52 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.chron.com/life/houston-belief/article/Poll-Nearly-80-percent-of-Americans-say-they-are-2444092.php
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:20 PM, plainolamerican <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Christians, which is 80 percent of the Nation
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> delusion noted.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The number of Americans who identify as Christian has fallen
>>>>>>>>>> nearly eight percentage points in only seven years, according to a 
>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> survey. Pew Research Center found that *71%* of Americans
>>>>>>>>>> identified as Christian in 2014 - down from *78%* in 2007.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and of those 71%, only a small fraction are zionists ... sorta
>>>>>>>>>> like the small percentage of muzzies who are radical killiers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/United.Syrian.Republic/videos/1730600583840768/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 10:13:59 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No doubt, there are some agencies who are Christian based, who
>>>>>>>>>>> are advocating for the refugee program to continue.  Thankfully, the
>>>>>>>>>>> majority of Christians, which is 80 percent of the Nation, are 
>>>>>>>>>>> opposed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:02 AM, plainolamerican <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do know that most Christians are opposed to the resettlement
>>>>>>>>>>>> of Syrian Refugees in the United States
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian groups break with GOP over Syrian refugees
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Evangelical Christians, as well as Christians more broadly, are
>>>>>>>>>>>> a core group in the Republican electoral base and are among the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>> passionate advocates for aiding refugees.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> By NAHAL TOOSI <http://www.politico.com/staff/nahal-toosi>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 11/17/15 06:24 PM EST
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Updated 11/18/15 08:43 PM EST
>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Republican presidential candidate, former Arkansas Gov.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Huckabee speaks at executive committee luncheon during the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> California
>>>>>>>>>>>> GOP fall convention on Friday, Sept. 18, 2015 in Anaheim, Calif. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (AP
>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo/Chris Carlson)]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Huckabee along with other politicians, have worked to gain
>>>>>>>>>>>> evangelical support, but may be threatening that by taking a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> stance against
>>>>>>>>>>>> Syrian refugees. | AP Photo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Faith-based groups, who play a key role in resettling refugees
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the United States, say they are dismayed by the wave of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anti-refugee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fervor set off by the Paris terrorist attacks and are urging 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supporters to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact elected officials on behalf of victims of the Syrian 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> civil war.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evangelical Christians, as well as Christians more broadly,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are a core group in the Republican electoral base and are among 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passionate advocates for aiding refugees.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A push by Republican presidential candidates to ban Syrian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees "does not reflect what we've been hearing from our 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituencies,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which are evangelical churches across the country," said Jenny 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yang, vice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president for advocacy at World Relief, an evangelical 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helps resettle refugees. "Most of the people have been saying 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue to work with refugees, that what happened in Paris ... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reflect who refugees are."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reports that a Syrian migrant may have played a role in last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week's attacks in Paris, which killed around 130 people, have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set off a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOP-led backlash over the Obama administration's plans to admit 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10,000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syrian refugees next year. More than half of U.S. governors 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have said they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not want Syrian refugees resettled in their states, while 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> House Speaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Ryan says he wants a vote this week on GOP-drafted 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legislation to halt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the administration's plans.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> World Relief is one of nine not-for-profit organizations,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several of them faith-based, that help resettle up to 70,000 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around the world in the United States each year. Others include 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the U.S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conference of Catholic Bishops, Lutheran Immigration and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Refugee Service,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the Church World Service. Many other faith-based groups, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evangelical Christian organizations, also perform aid work 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overseas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically aimed at refugees fleeing conflicts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 151117_Paul_Ryan_AP_1160.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> House likely to vote Thursday on Syrian refugee bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By JAKE SHERMAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Republican presidential contenders such as former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard at shoring up evangelical support in a crowded field, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harsh words
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against refugees carries a risk of looking politically 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunistic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of compassionate. Some advocates were particularly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shocked when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republican presidential candidate Chris Christie, New Jersey's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> governor,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said that the U.S. should bar Syrian orphaned toddlers if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "That was offensive. That was mean-spirited," said one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advocate with a Christian group that resettles refugees. He 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> added: "it’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disappointing because there have been Republican senators and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presidents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who have strongly supported this program over the years. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There’s a proud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tradition in the Republican Party of welcoming those who are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fleeing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persecution, and this takes the party in a negative direction. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s easy to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pick on vulnerable refugees who have no voice. But there are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immigrant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> groups who have voting power that understand what is going on. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand that it’s an anti-immigrant message."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even though many on the Christian right have reservations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about immigration overall, and may in particular be unhappy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who illegally enter the United States, there's long been a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recognition that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees fall under a different category. The 11 million 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syrians who have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either fled the Arab country or are displaced within it are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dodging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terrorist groups such as the Islamic State or the barrel bombs 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Syrian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> President Bashar Assad. Many are elderly, widowed or in need of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> medical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some Republican candidates have suggested that only Syrians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who are Christian be allowed on U.S. soil, something President 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barack Obama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has blasted as shameful. Yang said many evangelical Christians 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oppose such a religious test, especially because many are eager 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to share
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their faith with new arrivals.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The United States so far has admitted roughly 2,100 Syrians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since the conflict in the country began in March 2011. To be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed in,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees have to undergo the most stringent security checks of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any traveler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heading to the United States, according to the State 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department. Officials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the Obama administration on Tuesday began reaching out to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and lawmakers in a bid to explain the screening process, which 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average of 18-24 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, faith-based groups have also stepped up their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advocacy efforts for refugees. The U.S. Conference of Catholic 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bishops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> released a statement expressing distress over calls by elected 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halt the resettlement program.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 151117_syrian_refugees_AP_1160.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> White House pushes back against GOP on refugees
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By NAHAL TOOSI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "These refugees are fleeing terror themselves — violence like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have witnessed in Paris," said the statement by Bishop 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eusebio Elizondo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chairman of the conference's committee on migration. "Instead 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of using this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tragedy to scapegoat all refugees, I call upon our public 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials to work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together to end the Syrian conflict peacefully so the close to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 million
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syrian refugees can return to their country and rebuild their 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homes. Until
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that goal is achieved, we must work with the world community to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> safe haven to vulnerable and deserving refugees who are simply 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to survive."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since the Paris attacks, World Relief has used a website to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> urge people to contact their governors to express their support 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resettling Syrians. The Anti-Defamation League also has spoken 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out in favor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of helping the Syrian refugees, noting that U.S. wariness to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept Jewish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refugees during World War II is an example that must not be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Greenblatt, the chief executive officer of the ADL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a former Obama aide, stressed that much remains unknown 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Paris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attacks, including the exact nature of the allegation that a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syrian migrant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was one of the eight or nine attackers. Even if a terrorist 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posed as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migrant to reach France, it's less likely that the U.S., with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oceans to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protect it and a stricter screening process, faces the same 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dangers, other advocates said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Republicans and Democrats have to tread very carefully
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here," Greenblatt said. "Faith-based voters are very attentive 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues. They’re very sensitive to helping those in need."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joanne Kelsey, assistant director for advocacy with Lutheran
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Immigration and Refugee Service, said she hoped that the sound 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fury
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over refugees would soon be replaced with reason as Republican 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lawmakers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and officials get more details about how the refugee program 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This is a very reactionary time," she said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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