Aside from not teaching evolution you actually get a better math and science background at parochial schools.
On Feb 18, 2017 7:06 PM, "'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum" < [email protected]> wrote: > > I should say that even the mediocre Catholic ones were far better than the > public ones in most surrounding counties, including the one where I live. > > I live in a county just outside the county Indianapolis is in (Marion). On > the street I live on, when my kids were in grade and middle school there > were a lot of kids here. At the time more than 30% of them were in private > schools in Indianapolis. That's how bad the schools were here; they offered > nothing for higher-achieving kids; it was a race to mediocrity. One of the > dumbest asses I've ever met was superintendent over the schools; he blamed > their horrific performance on poor kids moving here from Indianapolis - and > showed me numbers showing how their test scores went down with migration > into the school district. So I asked him if he'd ever tracked how many kids > migrated OUT of his school district, or if he noticed they were almost > exclusively the top students. He said he'd have to look at that, lol. Idiot. > > On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 7:58:54 PM UTC-5, Perplexed wrote: >> >> >> Secular. There was one very good Catholic high school here and it cost >> about half but was further away. The rest of the Catholic schools were >> mediocre when it comes to academics. >> >> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 7:41:29 PM UTC-5, gtheist957 wrote: >>> >>> When you break it down month by month not real expensive was it >>> Christian schools or non religious? >>> >>> On Feb 18, 2017 6:35 PM, "'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum" < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Two kids; combined total of 12 years. That included commuting, which >>>> was probably $40K and all the extras that most kids do at private schools >>>> (study abroad, trips, etc). >>>> >>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 6:47:32 PM UTC-5, gtheist957 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> How many kids over how many years? Perp >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 18, 2017 5:41 PM, "'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum" < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow, that's horrible. A $250K home here would pay about $2K/year in >>>>>> property taxes. And yeah, it goes to the state and then to schools - >>>>>> including all the FAILING public ones. I have paid property taxes here >>>>>> for >>>>>> decades and only had kids in public schools for a few years. Then I moved >>>>>> them to a private school and spent $250K on tuition. That's messed up. >>>>>> Money should follow the CHILD. I should be able to spend my money where >>>>>> MY >>>>>> kids go to school - not where other people's kids go to school PLUS where >>>>>> mine go to school. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 6:11:11 PM UTC-5, brine wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In NJ, the cities determine the tax burden ... his house was about >>>>>>> $300K when he sold it ... my house's taxes are based on the last time >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> assessed the property, so for the $68K structure, based on the twisted >>>>>>> formula they use ... building and land are different (current price for >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> house would be about $250K, I pay $8K per year ... the concept is that >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> are paying 75% for the schools, but the money goes to the state and is >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> spent how THEY determine it should be spent ... so, in effect my taxes >>>>>>> pay >>>>>>> for the charter schools that get 3 or 4 times what my local kids get!!! >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> never had kids, but I always thought that since we use property taxes to >>>>>>> pay for schools, it should be directly spent where I live!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 5:36 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So the property tax rate varies widely by county or city too? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Out of curiosity, what value was your friend's home that had to pay >>>>>>>> $15K/year? That would be about a $2+ million dollar home here (with the >>>>>>>> homestead credits). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 5:08:11 PM UTC-5, brine wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We only have a State sales tax, which is 7% but less u=in "Urban >>>>>>>>> Economic Zones" ... failing cities like Newark and Camden ... When >>>>>>>>> they put >>>>>>>>> in the sales tax, while I was living in NY, it was supposed to help >>>>>>>>> pay for >>>>>>>>> schools and lower property taxes, just like the lottery and Casino >>>>>>>>> gambling >>>>>>>>> ... somehow they have always fallen short of the amazing savings we >>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>> get for paying more!!! I have lived in my house for 22 years now >>>>>>>>> ...property taxes have gone up 400% in that time ... amazingly >>>>>>>>> enough, my >>>>>>>>> town is one of the least expensive to live in based on property taxes >>>>>>>>> ... a >>>>>>>>> co-worker of mine had to sell his house and move to a different town >>>>>>>>> because they upped his taxes to $15K and could not afford to live >>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>> anymore!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 3:27 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've talked with people from NJ before and was astonished at your >>>>>>>>>> property taxes. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But if that is ALL you pay (the article says there are no county >>>>>>>>>> or local sales or income taxes), it depends on what your state >>>>>>>>>> charges for >>>>>>>>>> sales and income taxes if you want to compare NJ to different states. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I live in Indiana and for owner-occupied homes, our property >>>>>>>>>> taxes are capped at 1% of market value (after generous deductions are >>>>>>>>>> applied); the average actual rate paid is 0.88%. Our state income >>>>>>>>>> tax rate >>>>>>>>>> is 3.23%. Counties are allowed to charge additional income taxes; >>>>>>>>>> most are >>>>>>>>>> <2% but a couple are 3% (up by Chicago). The state sales tax rate is >>>>>>>>>> 7% and >>>>>>>>>> counties, localities can't add to this, but they can add a >>>>>>>>>> restaurant tax >>>>>>>>>> (1% for every county that does this except for one county that >>>>>>>>>> charges 2%) >>>>>>>>>> for food/beverages and a lodging tax too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Then they charge excise taxes for cars - 1.25% on depreciated car >>>>>>>>>> value with a minimum of $12. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So needless to say, our taxes are pretty low. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 10:04:51 AM UTC-5, brine wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ... just some data on my State, how does your State and taxes >>>>>>>>>>> compare??? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/02/7_reasons_why_ >>>>>>>>>>> njs_property_taxes_are_highest_in_us.html#incart_river_home >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> brine >>>>>>>>>>> http://brineb.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group >>>>>>>>>> /PoliticalForum >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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