In general, I am of the opinion that it is important that when designating the bad guys, to not haphazardly include a whole lotta not bad guys. I think it's a very bad idea to do so...
That's not really so hard to understand, is it? "Today, only a handful of countries designate the Brotherhood a terrorist organization tout court, including Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Russia, and Syria. Many more countries designate local chapters of the Brotherhood terrorist organizations when they engage in terrorism, as has been the case with Hamas. We would never argue that designating a Brotherhood segment is inappropriate. Far from it. If the U.S. government obtains credible evidence that the Egyptian Brotherhood organization, for example, is ordering its members to engage in terrorism, then it should be designated a foreign terrorist organization. But that designation should be confined to the chapter engaging in violence and not extended to the other Brotherhood entities elsewhere in the world that might have nothing to do with terrorism." https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2017/01/30/should-the-muslim-brotherhood-be-designated-a-terrorist-organization/ On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:30:57 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > I'm baffled by posts like this Pittalum. > > Your belief that the Muslim Brotherhood doesn't support violence is unique > to say the least. The Muslim Brotherhood has many individuals who are > labeled terrorists in place; the Muslim Brotherhood has long supported > ISIS, and although their methods may differ somewhat from ISIS, the Muslim > Brotherhood's goal is one in the same with ISIS, which is to achieve and > reach Dar-al-Islam; an Islamic worldwide caliphate. > > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Pittalum <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> "The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in Egypt in 1928 and sought to >> instill Islamic values into everyday life. It later evolved into a popular >> social and political organization and became Egypt’s leading opposition >> party. It has since inspired similar movements in countries such as >> Indonesia, Turkey, Jordan and Morocco. The Brotherhood disavowed violence >> <http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/03/world/africa/egypt-muslim-brotherhood-explainer/> >> long >> ago, and noted scholars have emphasized >> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-l-esposito/the-muslim-brotherhood-te_b_9329246.html> >> that >> it has fostered democratization and moderation in the Middle East. Two >> previous U.S. administrations concluded that it does not engage in >> terrorism, as did a recent report >> <https://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201617/cmselect/cmfaff/118/118.pdf> >> by >> the British government." >> >> Yet if the group is designated as a terrorist organization, a growing $57 >> million Islamophobia machine <https://islamophobianetwork.com/>, backed >> by large funders, well-organized institutions and junk scientists, will be >> ready to lead an effort to link the Muslim Brotherhood to groups here. This >> industry demonizes Islam through fake news, ersatz reports and hateful >> rhetoric; fearmongers and peddles falsehoods about Sharia law; and >> encourages lawmakers across the country to criminalize Muslim and >> Arab communities through bans, registries, watch lists and the like. They >> have helped introduce >> <https://islamophobianetwork.com/consequences#mapping-anti-sharia-legislation> >> more >> than 100 anti-Sharia bills in state legislatures and encouraged and >> trained law enforcement >> <https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/religion/reports/2015/02/11/106394/fear-inc-2-0/> >> to >> see Islam as a religion of violence." >> >> >> https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/02/08/calling-the-muslim-brotherhood-a-terrorist-group-would-hurt-all-american-muslims/?utm_term=.c5a651f30c60 >> >> >> On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 2:44:33 AM UTC-5, btdt100 wrote: >>> >>> Maybe you are the one who needs to get out more >>> >>> >>> Egypt declares Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group >>> Announcement criminalises all activities, financing for and membership >>> of group from which ousted President Morsi hailed >>> This article is *3 years old* >>> Shares >>> 595 >>> >>> Associated Press in Cairo >>> >>> Wednesday 25 December 2013 12.22 EST >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/25/egypt-declares-muslim-brotherhood-terrorist-group >>> >>> >>> On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 8:15:48 PM UTC-6, Pittalum wrote: >>>> >>>> You fellows should really try to get out more... >>>> >>>> "Like issuing a blanket ban on allowing in nationals from seven >>>> predominantly Muslim countries, designating the Muslim Brotherhood does >>>> nothing to thwart terrorism and imposes unnecessary burdens on large >>>> numbers of people mainly to satisfy a clutch of fanatics here at home. >>>> Worse, wrongly designating nonviolent groups as part of a terrorist >>>> organization feeds into jihadist propaganda and potentially encourages >>>> political violence. The administration’s main “counter-terrorism” >>>> initiatives so far have nothing to do with countering terrorism and >>>> everything to do with indulging excessive fear of people that do not pose >>>> a >>>> threat to the U.S." >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-cost-of-designating-the-muslim-brotherhood-as-terrorists/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 6:41:25 PM UTC-5, btdt100 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If they elect him, there won't be a democratic party in the forever. >>>>> I hope they do elect him. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 5:03:07 PM UTC-6, Travis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [[ If they elect him they will forever be known as the >>>>>> Democrap-Muzzieshit-Traitor Party. ]] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> * It's active and moderated. 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