Good Morning BDT! *"Great Minds~~Think Alike!"*
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:30 AM, btdt100 <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh I typed a post before reading all posts. Excuse me but we do see Pitt's > argument exactly the same. > > > On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 7:57:39 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> Kind of like saying: >> >> *"There's chapters of the Ku-Klux-Klan which are benevolent loving >> organizations; and we shouldn't label the KKK as a hate group"...* >> >> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Pittalum <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> In general, I am of the opinion that it is important that when >>> designating the bad guys, to not haphazardly include a whole lotta not bad >>> guys. I think it's a very bad idea to do so... >>> >>> That's not really so hard to understand, is it? >>> >>> "Today, only a handful of countries designate the Brotherhood a >>> terrorist organization tout court, including Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, >>> Russia, and Syria. Many more countries designate local chapters of the >>> Brotherhood terrorist organizations when they engage in terrorism, as has >>> been the case with Hamas. >>> >>> We would never argue that designating a Brotherhood segment is >>> inappropriate. Far from it. If the U.S. government obtains credible >>> evidence that the Egyptian Brotherhood organization, for example, is >>> ordering its members to engage in terrorism, then it should be designated a >>> foreign terrorist organization. But that designation should be confined to >>> the chapter engaging in violence and not extended to the other Brotherhood >>> entities elsewhere in the world that might have nothing to do with >>> terrorism." >>> >>> https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2017/01/30/should-the- >>> muslim-brotherhood-be-designated-a-terrorist-organization/ >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:30:57 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm baffled by posts like this Pittalum. >>>> >>>> Your belief that the Muslim Brotherhood doesn't support violence is >>>> unique to say the least. The Muslim Brotherhood has many individuals who >>>> are labeled terrorists in place; the Muslim Brotherhood has long supported >>>> ISIS, and although their methods may differ somewhat from ISIS, the Muslim >>>> Brotherhood's goal is one in the same with ISIS, which is to achieve and >>>> reach Dar-al-Islam; an Islamic worldwide caliphate. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Pittalum <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in Egypt in 1928 and sought to >>>>> instill Islamic values into everyday life. It later evolved into a popular >>>>> social and political organization and became Egypt’s leading opposition >>>>> party. It has since inspired similar movements in countries such as >>>>> Indonesia, Turkey, Jordan and Morocco. The Brotherhood disavowed >>>>> violence >>>>> <http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/03/world/africa/egypt-muslim-brotherhood-explainer/> >>>>> long >>>>> ago, and noted scholars have emphasized >>>>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-l-esposito/the-muslim-brotherhood-te_b_9329246.html> >>>>> that >>>>> it has fostered democratization and moderation in the Middle East. Two >>>>> previous U.S. administrations concluded that it does not engage in >>>>> terrorism, as did a recent report >>>>> <https://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201617/cmselect/cmfaff/118/118.pdf> >>>>> by >>>>> the British government." >>>>> >>>>> Yet if the group is designated as a terrorist organization, a growing $57 >>>>> million Islamophobia machine <https://islamophobianetwork.com/>, >>>>> backed by large funders, well-organized institutions and junk scientists, >>>>> will be ready to lead an effort to link the Muslim Brotherhood to groups >>>>> here. This industry demonizes Islam through fake news, ersatz reports and >>>>> hateful rhetoric; fearmongers and peddles falsehoods about Sharia law; and >>>>> encourages lawmakers across the country to criminalize Muslim and >>>>> Arab communities through bans, registries, watch lists and the like. They >>>>> have helped introduce >>>>> <https://islamophobianetwork.com/consequences#mapping-anti-sharia-legislation> >>>>> more >>>>> than 100 anti-Sharia bills in state legislatures and encouraged and >>>>> trained law enforcement >>>>> <https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/religion/reports/2015/02/11/106394/fear-inc-2-0/> >>>>> to >>>>> see Islam as a religion of violence." >>>>> >>>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/02/08/ >>>>> calling-the-muslim-brotherhood-a-terrorist-group-would-hurt- >>>>> all-american-muslims/?utm_term=.c5a651f30c60 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 2:44:33 AM UTC-5, btdt100 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe you are the one who needs to get out more >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Egypt declares Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group >>>>>> Announcement criminalises all activities, financing for and >>>>>> membership of group from which ousted President Morsi hailed >>>>>> This article is *3 years old* >>>>>> Shares >>>>>> 595 >>>>>> >>>>>> Associated Press in Cairo >>>>>> >>>>>> Wednesday 25 December 2013 12.22 EST >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/25/egypt-declares >>>>>> -muslim-brotherhood-terrorist-group >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 8:15:48 PM UTC-6, Pittalum wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You fellows should really try to get out more... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Like issuing a blanket ban on allowing in nationals from seven >>>>>>> predominantly Muslim countries, designating the Muslim Brotherhood does >>>>>>> nothing to thwart terrorism and imposes unnecessary burdens on large >>>>>>> numbers of people mainly to satisfy a clutch of fanatics here at home. >>>>>>> Worse, wrongly designating nonviolent groups as part of a terrorist >>>>>>> organization feeds into jihadist propaganda and potentially encourages >>>>>>> political violence. The administration’s main “counter-terrorism” >>>>>>> initiatives so far have nothing to do with countering terrorism and >>>>>>> everything to do with indulging excessive fear of people that do not >>>>>>> pose a >>>>>>> threat to the U.S." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-cost-of-d >>>>>>> esignating-the-muslim-brotherhood-as-terrorists/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 6:41:25 PM UTC-5, btdt100 wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If they elect him, there won't be a democratic party in the >>>>>>>> forever. I hope they do elect him. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 5:03:07 PM UTC-6, Travis wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [[ If they elect him they will forever be known as the >>>>>>>>> Democrap-Muzzieshit-Traitor Party. ]] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>> >>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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