jgg, The new rule covering this will be posted in a couple of days. It is indeed geared toward civility.
On 2/20/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > To be more accurate, it is like not having any police in a > neighborhood for years, and when a new cop come into the hood he > arrests the mugeee and mugger in pursuit of "fairness", which of > course is fundamentally unfairly applied... Eight Years of trash > talking Lefties who refuse to listen UNLESS you speak in the language > of opponent-demonization while waiting for a beat cop to insist on > CIVIL debate, causes one to assume no beat cop exists... > > So if you moderate with an eye towards civility, I do not have to the > policing of uncivil debate... Now if you don't, well back to the no > beat cop days... > > On Feb 19, 5:13 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > To be more accurate: > > > > Just like the muggee that was wearing his gold necklaces an diamond > > pinky rings while walking through downtown Detroit with a neon shirt > > that flashes "Whitey Rules" and then wonders why the cops wanna lock > > him up too. > > > > They can't, we can. Our way is more fair. > > > > On Feb 19, 3:15 pm, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Just like a beat cop who arrests the mugger and muggee for > > > fighting... > > > > > On Feb 18, 7:48 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > jgg, > > > > > > There is NO denial, no conspiracy and no bullshit. Hip-hip hooray you > > > > stood up for what you think is right as you were involved in it. Gee > > > > aren't we supposed to do that when something bothers us. Atta-boy !! > > > > > > The first time Mike did this when it was my concern and I could do > > > > more than simply bitch about it, I did. > > > > > > I am of the opinion that all members are adults and are both in deed > > > > and in fact responsible for their own actions or reactions to the > > > > written word. To respond to being baited in my mind is just as stupid > > > > as doing the baiting. It, as my mother used to say " Sie brauchen zwei > > > > Menschen zum Tango" (it takes two to Tango), > > > > and you cuddled right up.... My fault or that of the board.. > > > > > > I THINK NOT !!!! > > > > > > Look in the mirror. > > > > > > On 2/18/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > The point remains despite the lovely non-denial denial... > > > > > > > On Feb 18, 2:57 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Since I don't even live in the US and never have called it home your > > > > > > Political comparison is lost on me. Assume what you will. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:05 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>> When you called Mike on it I called out ALL people involved. > > > > > > >>>> Baiting (as was done) is no better than being baited and > > > > > > >>>> responding inappropriately (as was also done). > > > > > > > > > My point is Mikey should have been called on it BEFORE I called > > > > > > > him on > > > > > > > it... The standard here is either "no call unless both sides do > > > > > > > it" > > > > > > > or no call if done by the Left"... Both are wrong-head... > > > > > > > Especially > > > > > > > when it has been the Left doing this and worse baiting for 8 > > > > > > > years... > > > > > > > > > The proper course would have been is to call Mikey for baiting and > > > > > > > thanking me for been so civil in pointing it out using moderate > > > > > > > language... Frankly the Left on this board is so used to > > > > > > > trashing the > > > > > > > Right, that they think it is the birth right... All that said, I > > > > > > > applaud you if it is intend to act on reducing baiting by both > > > > > > > side to > > > > > > > the point where one does not have to publicly call out the baiter > > > > > > > as I > > > > > > > did... If it happens, I have no cause to bait and bite back... > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > it is one-sided (either way frankly) then I will assume the rule > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > applied by ideological or personal bias... And we all have seen > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > happen as well... > > > > > > > > > On Feb 18, 11:28 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> Being a member does NOT give one any responsibility for someone > > > > > > >> elses > > > > > > >> posts. When you csalled Mike on it I called out ALL people > > > > > > >> involved. > > > > > > >> Baiting (as was done) is no better than being baited and > > > > > > >> responding > > > > > > >> inappropriately (as was also done). This thread was the first > > > > > > >> time he > > > > > > >> posted a PURE off topic bait after I was a moderator. Rule 3 > > > > > > >> applies > > > > > > >> and the key word for this discussion is ONLY > > > > > > > > >> 3) Posts that are made only to insult, defame, attack or > > > > > > >> threaten > > > > > > >> another member of the forum will not be tolerated and may be > > > > > > >> removed. > > > > > > > > >> Mike was very good at getting around this. I am sorry your > > > > > > >> feelings > > > > > > >> are hurt but I am NOT responsible for that. The end result was > > > > > > >> that no > > > > > > >> one was moderated, no one was banned, and Mike un-subscribed. If > > > > > > >> you > > > > > > >> want any more than that please see to it that the moderators get > > > > > > >> paychecks and a medical plan. > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > Mark, look at the time-line... You jump on my bones days ago > > > > > > >> > AFTER > > > > > > >> > you were moderator... You had been a member long enough to > > > > > > >> > know of > > > > > > >> > Mikey's habits... When I call Mikey on them in this thread, > > > > > > >> > YOU > > > > > > >> > jumped my bones... > > > > > > > > >> > As always, you are welcome to your opinion... But NOT your > > > > > > >> > facts... > > > > > > > > >> > On Feb 17, 5:37 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> jgg, > > > > > > > > >> >> You are, as always, welcome to your opinion. But since I was > > > > > > >> >> not a Moderator > > > > > > >> >> WEEKS ago your point is valueless. As soon as I found the > > > > > > >> >> problem, and it > > > > > > >> >> was MY problem to solve I did so. This ends this conversation. > > > > > > > > >> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:33 PM, jgg1000a > > > > > > >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> >> > You jumped on me BEFORE he unsubscribed. I am talking > > > > > > >> >> > about what you > > > > > > >> >> > should have done weeks ago... Instead you waited, and > > > > > > >> >> > jumped my > > > > > > >> >> > bones for cleaning up a mess you as moderator should have > > > > > > >> >> > already > > > > > > >> >> > dealt with... > > > > > > > > >> >> > And it was YOU who personally involved me be making a > > > > > > >> >> > public rebuke of > > > > > > >> >> > of myself... Which clearly I reject... Now if you in the > > > > > > >> >> > future > > > > > > >> >> > deal with issue like a mikey differently, clearly I will > > > > > > >> >> > not be > > > > > > >> >> > involved... > > > > > > > > >> >> > On Feb 17, 5:23 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > > Hardly jgg, he un-subscribed and has NOT posted here > > > > > > >> >> > > since. Bitch if you > > > > > > >> >> > > like but please do NOT tell me what I did or did not do > > > > > > >> >> > > correctly and > > > > > > >> >> > what > > > > > > >> >> > > the end result was.... especially when I was personally > > > > > > >> >> > > involved and you > > > > > > >> >> > > were not. > > > > > > > > >> >> > > On 2/17/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > Not sufficently AS HE CONTINUED THESE HABIT IN THIS > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > On Feb 17, 11:24 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > > > > He was sufficiently rebuked off-board. I do NOT > > > > > > >> >> > > > > scream in public. > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > On 2/17/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Frankly Mark, when a poster is a consist baiter, > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > you in fact should > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > single him out to the exclusion of those who > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > respond to him in kind > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > WHEN the moderators fali to stop the civil > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > discussion killing > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > baiting... And Mikey was that and did that... > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > It is called if > > > > > > >> >> > the > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > rulers refuse to act the people should.. > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Instead of thinking you nipped something in the > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > bud, you in fact > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > ALLOWED it to become an issue where individuals had > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > to do your > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > OFFICIAL moderating... We all have been on too > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > many boards not > > > > > > >> >> > to > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > know this... > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:39 pm, Mark <[email protected]> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > Yes, I really do get the whole scenario. That is > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > why the "baiter" > > > > > > >> >> > was > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > included in the warning as well. > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > I very seldom go to the states anymore. The last > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > visit was for > > > > > > >> >> > two > > > > > > >> >> > > > weeks > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > to > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > visit friends. I really don't care for the > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > hustle-bustle. I tend > > > > > > >> >> > to > > > > > > >> >> > > > visit > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > my > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > "home" country more.. Germany. If you ever visit > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > Costa Rica I > > > > > > >> >> > would > > > > > > >> >> > > > be > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > happy > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > to buy you several. > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:30 PM, RichardForbes < > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > If we are ever in the same town, I would be > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > glad to buy you a > > > > > > >> >> > beer. > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > As for giving it to Mikey, that whole thing > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > started with the > > > > > > >> >> > > > "little > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > dick" routine. But, he made the choice and was > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > not able to > > > > > > >> >> > handle > > > > > > >> >> > > > the > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > pressure. > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:20 pm, Mark <[email protected]> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > And you seem to like giving it to him. As to > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > the blame... > > > > > > >> >> > that > > > > > > >> >> > > > and a > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > dollar > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > will stiil buy me a really cold beer. > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:07 PM, > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > RichardForbes < > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > He will blame it on you, as he has done to > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > others > > > > > > >> >> > > > before. Mikey > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > seeks > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > attention and is willing to stoop to any > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > level to get it. > > > > > > >> >> > He > > > > > > >> >> > > > will > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > be > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > back, if for no other reason than the fact > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > that he gets > > > > > > >> >> > > > attention > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 5:17 pm, Mark > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > I accept that. Mike has un-subscribed all > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > by himself. > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:06 PM, > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > jgg1000a < > > > > > > >> >> > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Let me suggest to you that Mike LACK of > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > logic or use > > > > ... > > > > read more ยป > > > -- Mark M. Kahle, , www.filacoffee.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
