>>> When you called Mike on it I called out ALL people involved. Baiting (as >>> was done) is no better than being baited and responding inappropriately >>> (as was also done).
My point is Mikey should have been called on it BEFORE I called him on it... The standard here is either "no call unless both sides do it" or no call if done by the Left"... Both are wrong-head... Especially when it has been the Left doing this and worse baiting for 8 years... The proper course would have been is to call Mikey for baiting and thanking me for been so civil in pointing it out using moderate language... Frankly the Left on this board is so used to trashing the Right, that they think it is the birth right... All that said, I applaud you if it is intend to act on reducing baiting by both side to the point where one does not have to publicly call out the baiter as I did... If it happens, I have no cause to bait and bite back... If it is one-sided (either way frankly) then I will assume the rule is applied by ideological or personal bias... And we all have seen that happen as well... On Feb 18, 11:28 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > Being a member does NOT give one any responsibility for someone elses > posts. When you csalled Mike on it I called out ALL people involved. > Baiting (as was done) is no better than being baited and responding > inappropriately (as was also done). This thread was the first time he > posted a PURE off topic bait after I was a moderator. Rule 3 applies > and the key word for this discussion is ONLY > > 3) Posts that are made only to insult, defame, attack or threaten > another member of the forum will not be tolerated and may be removed. > > Mike was very good at getting around this. I am sorry your feelings > are hurt but I am NOT responsible for that. The end result was that no > one was moderated, no one was banned, and Mike un-subscribed. If you > want any more than that please see to it that the moderators get > paychecks and a medical plan. > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Mark, look at the time-line... You jump on my bones days ago AFTER > > you were moderator... You had been a member long enough to know of > > Mikey's habits... When I call Mikey on them in this thread, YOU > > jumped my bones... > > > As always, you are welcome to your opinion... But NOT your > > facts... > > > On Feb 17, 5:37 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> jgg, > > >> You are, as always, welcome to your opinion. But since I was not a > >> Moderator > >> WEEKS ago your point is valueless. As soon as I found the problem, and it > >> was MY problem to solve I did so. This ends this conversation. > > >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:33 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > You jumped on me BEFORE he unsubscribed. I am talking about what you > >> > should have done weeks ago... Instead you waited, and jumped my > >> > bones for cleaning up a mess you as moderator should have already > >> > dealt with... > > >> > And it was YOU who personally involved me be making a public rebuke of > >> > of myself... Which clearly I reject... Now if you in the future > >> > deal with issue like a mikey differently, clearly I will not be > >> > involved... > > >> > On Feb 17, 5:23 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > Hardly jgg, he un-subscribed and has NOT posted here since. Bitch if > >> > > you > >> > > like but please do NOT tell me what I did or did not do correctly and > >> > what > >> > > the end result was.... especially when I was personally involved and > >> > > you > >> > > were not. > > >> > > On 2/17/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > Not sufficently AS HE CONTINUED THESE HABIT IN THIS > > >> > > > On Feb 17, 11:24 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > He was sufficiently rebuked off-board. I do NOT scream in public. > > >> > > > > On 2/17/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > Frankly Mark, when a poster is a consist baiter, you in fact > >> > > > > > should > >> > > > > > single him out to the exclusion of those who respond to him in > >> > > > > > kind > >> > > > > > WHEN the moderators fali to stop the civil discussion killing > >> > > > > > baiting... And Mikey was that and did that... It is called if > >> > the > >> > > > > > rulers refuse to act the people should.. > > >> > > > > > Instead of thinking you nipped something in the bud, you in fact > >> > > > > > ALLOWED it to become an issue where individuals had to do your > >> > > > > > OFFICIAL moderating... We all have been on too many boards not > >> > to > >> > > > > > know this... > > >> > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:39 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > > > Yes, I really do get the whole scenario. That is why the > >> > > > > > > "baiter" > >> > was > >> > > > > > > included in the warning as well. > > >> > > > > > > I very seldom go to the states anymore. The last visit was for > >> > two > >> > > > weeks > >> > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > visit friends. I really don't care for the hustle-bustle. I > >> > > > > > > tend > >> > to > >> > > > visit > >> > > > > > my > >> > > > > > > "home" country more.. Germany. If you ever visit Costa Rica I > >> > would > >> > > > be > >> > > > > > happy > >> > > > > > > to buy you several. > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:30 PM, RichardForbes < > >> > > > > > [email protected] > > >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > If we are ever in the same town, I would be glad to buy you a > >> > beer. > > >> > > > > > > > As for giving it to Mikey, that whole thing started with the > >> > > > "little > >> > > > > > > > dick" routine. But, he made the choice and was not able to > >> > handle > >> > > > the > >> > > > > > > > pressure. > > >> > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:20 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > And you seem to like giving it to him. As to the blame... > >> > that > >> > > > and a > >> > > > > > > > dollar > >> > > > > > > > > will stiil buy me a really cold beer. > > >> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:07 PM, RichardForbes < > >> > > > > > > > [email protected] > > >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > He will blame it on you, as he has done to others > >> > > > before. Mikey > >> > > > > > seeks > >> > > > > > > > > > attention and is willing to stoop to any level to get it. > >> > He > >> > > > will > >> > > > > > be > >> > > > > > > > > > back, if for no other reason than the fact that he gets > >> > > > attention > >> > > > > > > > > > here. > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 5:17 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > I accept that. Mike has un-subscribed all by himself. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:06 PM, jgg1000a < > >> > > > [email protected]> > >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Let me suggest to you that Mike LACK of logic or use > >> > > > > > > > > > > > of > >> > > > > > straw-men > >> > > > > > > > > > > > BECOMES the topic because of his often use of them... > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 10:19 am, Mark <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > jgg, > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Because it was pure mimic and did not address the > >> > topic. > >> > > > It > >> > > > > > was > >> > > > > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > reason ALL involved were swatted and not just ONE. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > It was an equal opportunity swat. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/16/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Annointed One > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) I made a clear mimic of Mike' straw-man - that > >> > is to > >> > > > say > >> > > > > > > > > > something > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I post must be true because it is posted or on > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > >> > web > >> > > > by > >> > > > > > > > people > >> > > > > > > > > > who > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > support my position... > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) It also is clear Mike posts support the > >> > Democrats > >> > > > most > >> > > > > > of > >> > > > > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > > > time > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- The Donkeys... And he repeatedly claims > >> > Republicans > >> > > > > > > > (Elephants) > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have nothing intelligent to say... > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what did I say > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Little Mike is a Donkey... It is true > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> because > >> > it > >> > > > is in > >> > > > > > > > > > print... > >> > > > > > > > > > > > If Little Mike denies being a Donkey, it must be > >> > because > >> > > > he > >> > > > > > has > >> > > > > > > > > > nothing > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > intelligent to say... > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> This is the logic you seek to employ... > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain how calling someone an unthinking > >> > Donkey > >> > > > is > >> > > > > > a > >> > > > > > > > > > personal > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > assault while the claim that someone is an > >> > unthinking > >> > > > > > Elephant > >> > > > > > > > is > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not... Or is this just a double standard > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because > >> > > > Donkeys > >> > > > > > can > >> > > > > > > > have > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinner skins??? > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 7:55 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE < > >> > > > > > [email protected]> > >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mike, Navy, Richard, jgg, > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the posts with nothing but personal insults > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > must > >> > stop > >> > > > > > NOW. > >> > > > > > > > You > >> > > > > > > > > > must > >> > > > > > > > > > > > at > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > least address something of substance. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 7:41 am, "liberal mike532 !" < > >> > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The GOP's Jihad on Obamahttp:// > >> > > > > >www.truthout.org/021209J > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Parry, Consortium News: "The > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Republicans > >> > and > >> > > > > > their > >> > > > > > > > > > > > right-wing > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > media allies are doing whatever they can to > >> > > > strangle > >> > > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > Obama > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phenomenon in its cradle; the mainstream > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > media > >> > > > pundits > >> > > > > > are > >> > > > > > > > > > > > stressing > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the negative so they don't get called 'in the > >> > tank > >> > > > for > >> > > > > > > > Obama'; > >> > > > > > > > > > and > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats are shying away from holding the > >> > > > Bush-Cheney > >> > > > > > > > > > > > administration > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > accountable for its crimes. 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