The point remains despite the lovely non-denial denial... On Feb 18, 2:57 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > Since I don't even live in the US and never have called it home your > Political comparison is lost on me. Assume what you will. > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:05 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> When you called Mike on it I called out ALL people involved. Baiting > >>>> (as was done) is no better than being baited and responding > >>>> inappropriately (as was also done). > > > My point is Mikey should have been called on it BEFORE I called him on > > it... The standard here is either "no call unless both sides do it" > > or no call if done by the Left"... Both are wrong-head... Especially > > when it has been the Left doing this and worse baiting for 8 > > years... > > > The proper course would have been is to call Mikey for baiting and > > thanking me for been so civil in pointing it out using moderate > > language... Frankly the Left on this board is so used to trashing the > > Right, that they think it is the birth right... All that said, I > > applaud you if it is intend to act on reducing baiting by both side to > > the point where one does not have to publicly call out the baiter as I > > did... If it happens, I have no cause to bait and bite back... If > > it is one-sided (either way frankly) then I will assume the rule is > > applied by ideological or personal bias... And we all have seen that > > happen as well... > > > On Feb 18, 11:28 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Being a member does NOT give one any responsibility for someone elses > >> posts. When you csalled Mike on it I called out ALL people involved. > >> Baiting (as was done) is no better than being baited and responding > >> inappropriately (as was also done). This thread was the first time he > >> posted a PURE off topic bait after I was a moderator. Rule 3 applies > >> and the key word for this discussion is ONLY > > >> 3) Posts that are made only to insult, defame, attack or threaten > >> another member of the forum will not be tolerated and may be removed. > > >> Mike was very good at getting around this. I am sorry your feelings > >> are hurt but I am NOT responsible for that. The end result was that no > >> one was moderated, no one was banned, and Mike un-subscribed. If you > >> want any more than that please see to it that the moderators get > >> paychecks and a medical plan. > > >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Mark, look at the time-line... You jump on my bones days ago AFTER > >> > you were moderator... You had been a member long enough to know of > >> > Mikey's habits... When I call Mikey on them in this thread, YOU > >> > jumped my bones... > > >> > As always, you are welcome to your opinion... But NOT your > >> > facts... > > >> > On Feb 17, 5:37 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> jgg, > > >> >> You are, as always, welcome to your opinion. But since I was not a > >> >> Moderator > >> >> WEEKS ago your point is valueless. As soon as I found the problem, and > >> >> it > >> >> was MY problem to solve I did so. This ends this conversation. > > >> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:33 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > You jumped on me BEFORE he unsubscribed. I am talking about what you > >> >> > should have done weeks ago... Instead you waited, and jumped my > >> >> > bones for cleaning up a mess you as moderator should have already > >> >> > dealt with... > > >> >> > And it was YOU who personally involved me be making a public rebuke of > >> >> > of myself... Which clearly I reject... Now if you in the future > >> >> > deal with issue like a mikey differently, clearly I will not be > >> >> > involved... > > >> >> > On Feb 17, 5:23 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > Hardly jgg, he un-subscribed and has NOT posted here since. Bitch > >> >> > > if you > >> >> > > like but please do NOT tell me what I did or did not do correctly > >> >> > > and > >> >> > what > >> >> > > the end result was.... especially when I was personally involved > >> >> > > and you > >> >> > > were not. > > >> >> > > On 2/17/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > > > Not sufficently AS HE CONTINUED THESE HABIT IN THIS > > >> >> > > > On Feb 17, 11:24 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > > > He was sufficiently rebuked off-board. I do NOT scream in > >> >> > > > > public. > > >> >> > > > > On 2/17/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > > > > > Frankly Mark, when a poster is a consist baiter, you in fact > >> >> > > > > > should > >> >> > > > > > single him out to the exclusion of those who respond to him > >> >> > > > > > in kind > >> >> > > > > > WHEN the moderators fali to stop the civil discussion killing > >> >> > > > > > baiting... And Mikey was that and did that... It is > >> >> > > > > > called if > >> >> > the > >> >> > > > > > rulers refuse to act the people should.. > > >> >> > > > > > Instead of thinking you nipped something in the bud, you in > >> >> > > > > > fact > >> >> > > > > > ALLOWED it to become an issue where individuals had to do your > >> >> > > > > > OFFICIAL moderating... We all have been on too many boards > >> >> > > > > > not > >> >> > to > >> >> > > > > > know this... > > >> >> > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:39 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > > > > > Yes, I really do get the whole scenario. That is why the > >> >> > > > > > > "baiter" > >> >> > was > >> >> > > > > > > included in the warning as well. > > >> >> > > > > > > I very seldom go to the states anymore. The last visit was > >> >> > > > > > > for > >> >> > two > >> >> > > > weeks > >> >> > > > > > to > >> >> > > > > > > visit friends. I really don't care for the hustle-bustle. I > >> >> > > > > > > tend > >> >> > to > >> >> > > > visit > >> >> > > > > > my > >> >> > > > > > > "home" country more.. Germany. If you ever visit Costa Rica > >> >> > > > > > > I > >> >> > would > >> >> > > > be > >> >> > > > > > happy > >> >> > > > > > > to buy you several. > > >> >> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:30 PM, RichardForbes < > >> >> > > > > > [email protected] > > >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> >> > > > > > > > If we are ever in the same town, I would be glad to buy > >> >> > > > > > > > you a > >> >> > beer. > > >> >> > > > > > > > As for giving it to Mikey, that whole thing started with > >> >> > > > > > > > the > >> >> > > > "little > >> >> > > > > > > > dick" routine. But, he made the choice and was not able > >> >> > > > > > > > to > >> >> > handle > >> >> > > > the > >> >> > > > > > > > pressure. > > >> >> > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:20 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > > > > > > > And you seem to like giving it to him. As to the > >> >> > > > > > > > > blame... > >> >> > that > >> >> > > > and a > >> >> > > > > > > > dollar > >> >> > > > > > > > > will stiil buy me a really cold beer. > > >> >> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:07 PM, RichardForbes < > >> >> > > > > > > > [email protected] > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > He will blame it on you, as he has done to others > >> >> > > > before. Mikey > >> >> > > > > > seeks > >> >> > > > > > > > > > attention and is willing to stoop to any level to get > >> >> > > > > > > > > > it. > >> >> > He > >> >> > > > will > >> >> > > > > > be > >> >> > > > > > > > > > back, if for no other reason than the fact that he > >> >> > > > > > > > > > gets > >> >> > > > attention > >> >> > > > > > > > > > here. > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 5:17 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > I accept that. Mike has un-subscribed all by > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > himself. > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:06 PM, jgg1000a < > >> >> > > > [email protected]> > >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Let me suggest to you that Mike LACK of logic or > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > use of > >> >> > > > > > straw-men > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > BECOMES the topic because of his often use of > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > them... > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 10:19 am, Mark <[email protected]> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > jgg, > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Because it was pure mimic and did not address > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > the > >> >> > topic. > >> >> > > > It > >> >> > > > > > was > >> >> > > > > > > > the > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > reason ALL involved were swatted and not just > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ONE. > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > It was an equal opportunity swat. > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/16/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Annointed One > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) I made a clear mimic of Mike' straw-man - > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > >> >> > is to > >> >> > > > say > >> >> > > > > > > > > > something > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I post must be true because it is posted or > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the > >> >> > web > >> >> > > > by > >> >> > > > > > > > people > >> >> > > > > > > > > > who > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > support my position... > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) It also is clear Mike posts support the > >> >> > Democrats > >> >> > > > most > >> >> > > > > > of > >> >> > > > > > > > the > >> >> > > > > > > > > > time > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- The Donkeys... And he repeatedly claims > >> >> > Republicans > >> >> > > > > > > > (Elephants) > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have nothing intelligent to say... > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what did I say > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Little Mike is a Donkey... It is true > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> because > >> >> > it > >> >> > > > is in > >> >> > > > > > > > > > print... > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > If Little Mike denies being a Donkey, it must be > >> >> > because > >> >> > > > he > >> >> > > > > > has > >> >> > > > > > > > > > nothing > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > intelligent to say... > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> This is the logic you seek to employ... > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain how calling someone an > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > unthinking > >> >> > Donkey > >> >> > > > is > >> >> > > > > > a > >> >> > > > > > > > > > personal > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > assault while the claim that someone is an > >> >> > unthinking > >> >> > > > > > Elephant > >> >> > > > > > > > is > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not... Or is this just a double standard > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because > >> >> > > > Donkeys > >> >> > > > > > can > >> >> > > > > > > > have > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinner skins??? > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 7:55 > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
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