Just like a beat cop who arrests the mugger and muggee for fighting... On Feb 18, 7:48 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > jgg, > > There is NO denial, no conspiracy and no bullshit. Hip-hip hooray you > stood up for what you think is right as you were involved in it. Gee > aren't we supposed to do that when something bothers us. Atta-boy !! > > The first time Mike did this when it was my concern and I could do > more than simply bitch about it, I did. > > I am of the opinion that all members are adults and are both in deed > and in fact responsible for their own actions or reactions to the > written word. To respond to being baited in my mind is just as stupid > as doing the baiting. It, as my mother used to say " Sie brauchen zwei > Menschen zum Tango" (it takes two to Tango), > and you cuddled right up.... My fault or that of the board.. > > I THINK NOT !!!! > > Look in the mirror. > > On 2/18/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The point remains despite the lovely non-denial denial... > > > On Feb 18, 2:57 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Since I don't even live in the US and never have called it home your > > > Political comparison is lost on me. Assume what you will. > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:05 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>> When you called Mike on it I called out ALL people involved. > > > >>>> Baiting (as was done) is no better than being baited and responding > > > >>>> inappropriately (as was also done). > > > > > My point is Mikey should have been called on it BEFORE I called him on > > > > it... The standard here is either "no call unless both sides do it" > > > > or no call if done by the Left"... Both are wrong-head... Especially > > > > when it has been the Left doing this and worse baiting for 8 > > > > years... > > > > > The proper course would have been is to call Mikey for baiting and > > > > thanking me for been so civil in pointing it out using moderate > > > > language... Frankly the Left on this board is so used to trashing the > > > > Right, that they think it is the birth right... All that said, I > > > > applaud you if it is intend to act on reducing baiting by both side to > > > > the point where one does not have to publicly call out the baiter as I > > > > did... If it happens, I have no cause to bait and bite back... If > > > > it is one-sided (either way frankly) then I will assume the rule is > > > > applied by ideological or personal bias... And we all have seen that > > > > happen as well... > > > > > On Feb 18, 11:28 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Being a member does NOT give one any responsibility for someone elses > > > >> posts. When you csalled Mike on it I called out ALL people involved. > > > >> Baiting (as was done) is no better than being baited and responding > > > >> inappropriately (as was also done). This thread was the first time he > > > >> posted a PURE off topic bait after I was a moderator. Rule 3 applies > > > >> and the key word for this discussion is ONLY > > > > >> 3) Posts that are made only to insult, defame, attack or threaten > > > >> another member of the forum will not be tolerated and may be removed. > > > > >> Mike was very good at getting around this. I am sorry your feelings > > > >> are hurt but I am NOT responsible for that. The end result was that no > > > >> one was moderated, no one was banned, and Mike un-subscribed. If you > > > >> want any more than that please see to it that the moderators get > > > >> paychecks and a medical plan. > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > Mark, look at the time-line... You jump on my bones days ago AFTER > > > >> > you were moderator... You had been a member long enough to know of > > > >> > Mikey's habits... When I call Mikey on them in this thread, YOU > > > >> > jumped my bones... > > > > >> > As always, you are welcome to your opinion... But NOT your > > > >> > facts... > > > > >> > On Feb 17, 5:37 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> >> jgg, > > > > >> >> You are, as always, welcome to your opinion. But since I was not a > > > >> >> Moderator > > > >> >> WEEKS ago your point is valueless. As soon as I found the problem, > > > >> >> and it > > > >> >> was MY problem to solve I did so. This ends this conversation. > > > > >> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:33 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> > > > >> >> wrote: > > > > >> >> > You jumped on me BEFORE he unsubscribed. I am talking about > > > >> >> > what you > > > >> >> > should have done weeks ago... Instead you waited, and jumped my > > > >> >> > bones for cleaning up a mess you as moderator should have already > > > >> >> > dealt with... > > > > >> >> > And it was YOU who personally involved me be making a public > > > >> >> > rebuke of > > > >> >> > of myself... Which clearly I reject... Now if you in the future > > > >> >> > deal with issue like a mikey differently, clearly I will not be > > > >> >> > involved... > > > > >> >> > On Feb 17, 5:23 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> >> > > Hardly jgg, he un-subscribed and has NOT posted here since. > > > >> >> > > Bitch if you > > > >> >> > > like but please do NOT tell me what I did or did not do > > > >> >> > > correctly and > > > >> >> > what > > > >> >> > > the end result was.... especially when I was personally > > > >> >> > > involved and you > > > >> >> > > were not. > > > > >> >> > > On 2/17/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > Not sufficently AS HE CONTINUED THESE HABIT IN THIS > > > > >> >> > > > On Feb 17, 11:24 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> >> > > > > He was sufficiently rebuked off-board. I do NOT scream in > > > >> >> > > > > public. > > > > >> >> > > > > On 2/17/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > Frankly Mark, when a poster is a consist baiter, you in > > > >> >> > > > > > fact should > > > >> >> > > > > > single him out to the exclusion of those who respond to > > > >> >> > > > > > him in kind > > > >> >> > > > > > WHEN the moderators fali to stop the civil discussion > > > >> >> > > > > > killing > > > >> >> > > > > > baiting... And Mikey was that and did that... It is > > > >> >> > > > > > called if > > > >> >> > the > > > >> >> > > > > > rulers refuse to act the people should.. > > > > >> >> > > > > > Instead of thinking you nipped something in the bud, you > > > >> >> > > > > > in fact > > > >> >> > > > > > ALLOWED it to become an issue where individuals had to do > > > >> >> > > > > > your > > > >> >> > > > > > OFFICIAL moderating... We all have been on too many > > > >> >> > > > > > boards not > > > >> >> > to > > > >> >> > > > > > know this... > > > > >> >> > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:39 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> >> > > > > > > Yes, I really do get the whole scenario. That is why > > > >> >> > > > > > > the "baiter" > > > >> >> > was > > > >> >> > > > > > > included in the warning as well. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > I very seldom go to the states anymore. The last visit > > > >> >> > > > > > > was for > > > >> >> > two > > > >> >> > > > weeks > > > >> >> > > > > > to > > > >> >> > > > > > > visit friends. I really don't care for the > > > >> >> > > > > > > hustle-bustle. I tend > > > >> >> > to > > > >> >> > > > visit > > > >> >> > > > > > my > > > >> >> > > > > > > "home" country more.. Germany. If you ever visit Costa > > > >> >> > > > > > > Rica I > > > >> >> > would > > > >> >> > > > be > > > >> >> > > > > > happy > > > >> >> > > > > > > to buy you several. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:30 PM, RichardForbes < > > > >> >> > > > > > [email protected] > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > If we are ever in the same town, I would be glad to > > > >> >> > > > > > > > buy you a > > > >> >> > beer. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > As for giving it to Mikey, that whole thing started > > > >> >> > > > > > > > with the > > > >> >> > > > "little > > > >> >> > > > > > > > dick" routine. But, he made the choice and was not > > > >> >> > > > > > > > able to > > > >> >> > handle > > > >> >> > > > the > > > >> >> > > > > > > > pressure. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:20 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > And you seem to like giving it to him. As to the > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > blame... > > > >> >> > that > > > >> >> > > > and a > > > >> >> > > > > > > > dollar > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > will stiil buy me a really cold beer. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:07 PM, RichardForbes < > > > >> >> > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > He will blame it on you, as he has done to others > > > >> >> > > > before. Mikey > > > >> >> > > > > > seeks > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > attention and is willing to stoop to any level to > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > get it. > > > >> >> > He > > > >> >> > > > will > > > >> >> > > > > > be > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > back, if for no other reason than the fact that > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > he gets > > > >> >> > > > attention > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 5:17 pm, Mark <[email protected]> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > I accept that. Mike has un-subscribed all by > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > himself. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:06 PM, jgg1000a < > > > >> >> > > > [email protected]> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Let me suggest to you that Mike LACK of logic > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > or use of > > > >> >> > > > > > straw-men > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > BECOMES the topic because of his often use of > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > them... > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 10:19 am, Mark > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > >> >> > wrote: > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > jgg, > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Because it was pure mimic and did not > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > address the > > > >> >> > topic. > > > >> >> > > > It > > > >> >> > > > > > was > > > >> >> > > > > > > > the > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > reason ALL involved were swatted and not > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > just ONE. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > It was an equal opportunity swat. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/16/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Annointed One > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) I made a clear mimic of Mike' > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > straw-man - that > > > >> >> > is to > > > >> >> > > > say > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > something > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I post must be true because it is posted > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or on the > > > >> >> > web > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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