Since I don't even live in the US and never have called it home your Political comparison is lost on me. Assume what you will.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:05 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> When you called Mike on it I called out ALL people involved. Baiting (as >>>> was done) is no better than being baited and responding inappropriately >>>> (as was also done). > > My point is Mikey should have been called on it BEFORE I called him on > it... The standard here is either "no call unless both sides do it" > or no call if done by the Left"... Both are wrong-head... Especially > when it has been the Left doing this and worse baiting for 8 > years... > > The proper course would have been is to call Mikey for baiting and > thanking me for been so civil in pointing it out using moderate > language... Frankly the Left on this board is so used to trashing the > Right, that they think it is the birth right... All that said, I > applaud you if it is intend to act on reducing baiting by both side to > the point where one does not have to publicly call out the baiter as I > did... If it happens, I have no cause to bait and bite back... If > it is one-sided (either way frankly) then I will assume the rule is > applied by ideological or personal bias... And we all have seen that > happen as well... > > On Feb 18, 11:28 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> Being a member does NOT give one any responsibility for someone elses >> posts. When you csalled Mike on it I called out ALL people involved. >> Baiting (as was done) is no better than being baited and responding >> inappropriately (as was also done). This thread was the first time he >> posted a PURE off topic bait after I was a moderator. Rule 3 applies >> and the key word for this discussion is ONLY >> >> 3) Posts that are made only to insult, defame, attack or threaten >> another member of the forum will not be tolerated and may be removed. >> >> Mike was very good at getting around this. I am sorry your feelings >> are hurt but I am NOT responsible for that. The end result was that no >> one was moderated, no one was banned, and Mike un-subscribed. If you >> want any more than that please see to it that the moderators get >> paychecks and a medical plan. >> >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Mark, look at the time-line... You jump on my bones days ago AFTER >> > you were moderator... You had been a member long enough to know of >> > Mikey's habits... When I call Mikey on them in this thread, YOU >> > jumped my bones... >> >> > As always, you are welcome to your opinion... But NOT your >> > facts... >> >> > On Feb 17, 5:37 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> jgg, >> >> >> You are, as always, welcome to your opinion. But since I was not a >> >> Moderator >> >> WEEKS ago your point is valueless. As soon as I found the problem, and it >> >> was MY problem to solve I did so. This ends this conversation. >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:33 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > You jumped on me BEFORE he unsubscribed. I am talking about what you >> >> > should have done weeks ago... Instead you waited, and jumped my >> >> > bones for cleaning up a mess you as moderator should have already >> >> > dealt with... >> >> >> > And it was YOU who personally involved me be making a public rebuke of >> >> > of myself... Which clearly I reject... Now if you in the future >> >> > deal with issue like a mikey differently, clearly I will not be >> >> > involved... >> >> >> > On Feb 17, 5:23 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > Hardly jgg, he un-subscribed and has NOT posted here since. Bitch if >> >> > > you >> >> > > like but please do NOT tell me what I did or did not do correctly and >> >> > what >> >> > > the end result was.... especially when I was personally involved and >> >> > > you >> >> > > were not. >> >> >> > > On 2/17/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > > > Not sufficently AS HE CONTINUED THESE HABIT IN THIS >> >> >> > > > On Feb 17, 11:24 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > He was sufficiently rebuked off-board. I do NOT scream in public. >> >> >> > > > > On 2/17/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > Frankly Mark, when a poster is a consist baiter, you in fact >> >> > > > > > should >> >> > > > > > single him out to the exclusion of those who respond to him in >> >> > > > > > kind >> >> > > > > > WHEN the moderators fali to stop the civil discussion killing >> >> > > > > > baiting... And Mikey was that and did that... It is called >> >> > > > > > if >> >> > the >> >> > > > > > rulers refuse to act the people should.. >> >> >> > > > > > Instead of thinking you nipped something in the bud, you in fact >> >> > > > > > ALLOWED it to become an issue where individuals had to do your >> >> > > > > > OFFICIAL moderating... We all have been on too many boards >> >> > > > > > not >> >> > to >> >> > > > > > know this... >> >> >> > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:39 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > Yes, I really do get the whole scenario. That is why the >> >> > > > > > > "baiter" >> >> > was >> >> > > > > > > included in the warning as well. >> >> >> > > > > > > I very seldom go to the states anymore. The last visit was for >> >> > two >> >> > > > weeks >> >> > > > > > to >> >> > > > > > > visit friends. I really don't care for the hustle-bustle. I >> >> > > > > > > tend >> >> > to >> >> > > > visit >> >> > > > > > my >> >> > > > > > > "home" country more.. Germany. If you ever visit Costa Rica I >> >> > would >> >> > > > be >> >> > > > > > happy >> >> > > > > > > to buy you several. >> >> >> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:30 PM, RichardForbes < >> >> > > > > > [email protected] >> >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > If we are ever in the same town, I would be glad to buy you >> >> > > > > > > > a >> >> > beer. >> >> >> > > > > > > > As for giving it to Mikey, that whole thing started with the >> >> > > > "little >> >> > > > > > > > dick" routine. But, he made the choice and was not able to >> >> > handle >> >> > > > the >> >> > > > > > > > pressure. >> >> >> > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:20 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > And you seem to like giving it to him. As to the blame... >> >> > that >> >> > > > and a >> >> > > > > > > > dollar >> >> > > > > > > > > will stiil buy me a really cold beer. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:07 PM, RichardForbes < >> >> > > > > > > > [email protected] >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > He will blame it on you, as he has done to others >> >> > > > before. Mikey >> >> > > > > > seeks >> >> > > > > > > > > > attention and is willing to stoop to any level to get >> >> > > > > > > > > > it. >> >> > He >> >> > > > will >> >> > > > > > be >> >> > > > > > > > > > back, if for no other reason than the fact that he gets >> >> > > > attention >> >> > > > > > > > > > here. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 5:17 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > I accept that. Mike has un-subscribed all by himself. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:06 PM, jgg1000a < >> >> > > > [email protected]> >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Let me suggest to you that Mike LACK of logic or >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > use of >> >> > > > > > straw-men >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > BECOMES the topic because of his often use of >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > them... >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 10:19 am, Mark <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > jgg, >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Because it was pure mimic and did not address the >> >> > topic. >> >> > > > It >> >> > > > > > was >> >> > > > > > > > the >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > reason ALL involved were swatted and not just ONE. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > It was an equal opportunity swat. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/16/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Annointed One >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) I made a clear mimic of Mike' straw-man - >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that >> >> > is to >> >> > > > say >> >> > > > > > > > > > something >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I post must be true because it is posted or on >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the >> >> > web >> >> > > > by >> >> > > > > > > > people >> >> > > > > > > > > > who >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > support my position... >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) It also is clear Mike posts support the >> >> > Democrats >> >> > > > most >> >> > > > > > of >> >> > > > > > > > the >> >> > > > > > > > > > time >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- The Donkeys... And he repeatedly claims >> >> > Republicans >> >> > > > > > > > (Elephants) >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have nothing intelligent to say... >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what did I say >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Little Mike is a Donkey... It is true >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> because >> >> > it >> >> > > > is in >> >> > > > > > > > > > print... >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > If Little Mike denies being a Donkey, it must be >> >> > because >> >> > > > he >> >> > > > > > has >> >> > > > > > > > > > nothing >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > intelligent to say... >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> This is the logic you seek to employ... >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain how calling someone an unthinking >> >> > Donkey >> >> > > > is >> >> > > > > > a >> >> > > > > > > > > > personal >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > assault while the claim that someone is an >> >> > unthinking >> >> > > > > > Elephant >> >> > > > > > > > is >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not... Or is this just a double standard >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because >> >> > > > Donkeys >> >> > > > > > can >> >> > > > > > > > have >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinner skins??? >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 7:55 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE < >> >> > > > > > [email protected]> >> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mike, Navy, Richard, jgg, >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the posts with nothing but personal insults >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > must >> >> > stop >> >> > > > > > NOW. >> >> > > > > > > > You >> >> > > > > > > > > > must >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > at >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > least address something of substance. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 7:41 am, "liberal mike532 !" < >> >> > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The GOP's Jihad on Obamahttp:// >> >> > > > > >www.truthout.org/021209J >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Parry, Consortium News: "The >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Republicans >> >> > and >> >> > > > > > their >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > right-wing >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > media allies are doing whatever they can to >> >> > > > strangle >> >> > > > > > the >> >> > > > > > > > Obama >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phenomenon in its cradle; the mainstream >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > media >> >> > > > pundits >> >> > > > > > are >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > stressing >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the negative so they don't get called 'in >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the >> >> > tank >> >> > > > for >> >> > > > > > > > Obama'; >> >> > > > > > > > > > and >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrats are shying away from holding the >> >> > > > Bush-Cheney >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > administration >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > accountable for its crimes. None of these >> >> > > > developments >> >> > > > > > is >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > particularly >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surprising. Indeed, they track closely to >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the >> >> > > > > > > > political-media >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > pattern >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that took shape the last time a young >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democrat >> >> > won >> >> > > > the >> >> > > > > > > > White >> >> ... >> >> read more ยป > > > -- Mark M. Kahle, , www.filacoffee.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
