jgg, There is NO denial, no conspiracy and no bullshit. Hip-hip hooray you stood up for what you think is right as you were involved in it. Gee aren't we supposed to do that when something bothers us. Atta-boy !!
The first time Mike did this when it was my concern and I could do more than simply bitch about it, I did. I am of the opinion that all members are adults and are both in deed and in fact responsible for their own actions or reactions to the written word. To respond to being baited in my mind is just as stupid as doing the baiting. It, as my mother used to say " Sie brauchen zwei Menschen zum Tango" (it takes two to Tango), and you cuddled right up.... My fault or that of the board.. I THINK NOT !!!! Look in the mirror. On 2/18/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > The point remains despite the lovely non-denial denial... > > On Feb 18, 2:57 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > Since I don't even live in the US and never have called it home your > > Political comparison is lost on me. Assume what you will. > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:05 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>> When you called Mike on it I called out ALL people involved. Baiting > > >>>> (as was done) is no better than being baited and responding > > >>>> inappropriately (as was also done). > > > > > My point is Mikey should have been called on it BEFORE I called him on > > > it... The standard here is either "no call unless both sides do it" > > > or no call if done by the Left"... Both are wrong-head... Especially > > > when it has been the Left doing this and worse baiting for 8 > > > years... > > > > > The proper course would have been is to call Mikey for baiting and > > > thanking me for been so civil in pointing it out using moderate > > > language... Frankly the Left on this board is so used to trashing the > > > Right, that they think it is the birth right... All that said, I > > > applaud you if it is intend to act on reducing baiting by both side to > > > the point where one does not have to publicly call out the baiter as I > > > did... If it happens, I have no cause to bait and bite back... If > > > it is one-sided (either way frankly) then I will assume the rule is > > > applied by ideological or personal bias... And we all have seen that > > > happen as well... > > > > > On Feb 18, 11:28 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Being a member does NOT give one any responsibility for someone elses > > >> posts. When you csalled Mike on it I called out ALL people involved. > > >> Baiting (as was done) is no better than being baited and responding > > >> inappropriately (as was also done). This thread was the first time he > > >> posted a PURE off topic bait after I was a moderator. Rule 3 applies > > >> and the key word for this discussion is ONLY > > > > >> 3) Posts that are made only to insult, defame, attack or threaten > > >> another member of the forum will not be tolerated and may be removed. > > > > >> Mike was very good at getting around this. I am sorry your feelings > > >> are hurt but I am NOT responsible for that. The end result was that no > > >> one was moderated, no one was banned, and Mike un-subscribed. If you > > >> want any more than that please see to it that the moderators get > > >> paychecks and a medical plan. > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > Mark, look at the time-line... You jump on my bones days ago AFTER > > >> > you were moderator... You had been a member long enough to know of > > >> > Mikey's habits... When I call Mikey on them in this thread, YOU > > >> > jumped my bones... > > > > >> > As always, you are welcome to your opinion... But NOT your > > >> > facts... > > > > >> > On Feb 17, 5:37 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> jgg, > > > > >> >> You are, as always, welcome to your opinion. But since I was not a > > >> >> Moderator > > >> >> WEEKS ago your point is valueless. As soon as I found the problem, > > >> >> and it > > >> >> was MY problem to solve I did so. This ends this conversation. > > > > >> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:33 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> > You jumped on me BEFORE he unsubscribed. I am talking about what > > >> >> > you > > >> >> > should have done weeks ago... Instead you waited, and jumped my > > >> >> > bones for cleaning up a mess you as moderator should have already > > >> >> > dealt with... > > > > >> >> > And it was YOU who personally involved me be making a public rebuke > > >> >> > of > > >> >> > of myself... Which clearly I reject... Now if you in the future > > >> >> > deal with issue like a mikey differently, clearly I will not be > > >> >> > involved... > > > > >> >> > On Feb 17, 5:23 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > > Hardly jgg, he un-subscribed and has NOT posted here since. Bitch > > >> >> > > if you > > >> >> > > like but please do NOT tell me what I did or did not do correctly > > >> >> > > and > > >> >> > what > > >> >> > > the end result was.... especially when I was personally involved > > >> >> > > and you > > >> >> > > were not. > > > > >> >> > > On 2/17/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > Not sufficently AS HE CONTINUED THESE HABIT IN THIS > > > > >> >> > > > On Feb 17, 11:24 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > > > > He was sufficiently rebuked off-board. I do NOT scream in > > >> >> > > > > public. > > > > >> >> > > > > On 2/17/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > Frankly Mark, when a poster is a consist baiter, you in > > >> >> > > > > > fact should > > >> >> > > > > > single him out to the exclusion of those who respond to him > > >> >> > > > > > in kind > > >> >> > > > > > WHEN the moderators fali to stop the civil discussion > > >> >> > > > > > killing > > >> >> > > > > > baiting... And Mikey was that and did that... It is > > >> >> > > > > > called if > > >> >> > the > > >> >> > > > > > rulers refuse to act the people should.. > > > > >> >> > > > > > Instead of thinking you nipped something in the bud, you in > > >> >> > > > > > fact > > >> >> > > > > > ALLOWED it to become an issue where individuals had to do > > >> >> > > > > > your > > >> >> > > > > > OFFICIAL moderating... We all have been on too many > > >> >> > > > > > boards not > > >> >> > to > > >> >> > > > > > know this... > > > > >> >> > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:39 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > > > > > > Yes, I really do get the whole scenario. That is why the > > >> >> > > > > > > "baiter" > > >> >> > was > > >> >> > > > > > > included in the warning as well. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > I very seldom go to the states anymore. The last visit > > >> >> > > > > > > was for > > >> >> > two > > >> >> > > > weeks > > >> >> > > > > > to > > >> >> > > > > > > visit friends. I really don't care for the hustle-bustle. > > >> >> > > > > > > I tend > > >> >> > to > > >> >> > > > visit > > >> >> > > > > > my > > >> >> > > > > > > "home" country more.. Germany. If you ever visit Costa > > >> >> > > > > > > Rica I > > >> >> > would > > >> >> > > > be > > >> >> > > > > > happy > > >> >> > > > > > > to buy you several. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:30 PM, RichardForbes < > > >> >> > > > > > [email protected] > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > If we are ever in the same town, I would be glad to buy > > >> >> > > > > > > > you a > > >> >> > beer. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > As for giving it to Mikey, that whole thing started > > >> >> > > > > > > > with the > > >> >> > > > "little > > >> >> > > > > > > > dick" routine. But, he made the choice and was not > > >> >> > > > > > > > able to > > >> >> > handle > > >> >> > > > the > > >> >> > > > > > > > pressure. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:20 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > > > > > > > > And you seem to like giving it to him. As to the > > >> >> > > > > > > > > blame... > > >> >> > that > > >> >> > > > and a > > >> >> > > > > > > > dollar > > >> >> > > > > > > > > will stiil buy me a really cold beer. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:07 PM, RichardForbes < > > >> >> > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > He will blame it on you, as he has done to others > > >> >> > > > before. Mikey > > >> >> > > > > > seeks > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > attention and is willing to stoop to any level to > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > get it. > > >> >> > He > > >> >> > > > will > > >> >> > > > > > be > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > back, if for no other reason than the fact that he > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > gets > > >> >> > > > attention > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 5:17 pm, Mark <[email protected]> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > I accept that. Mike has un-subscribed all by > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > himself. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:06 PM, jgg1000a < > > >> >> > > > [email protected]> > > >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Let me suggest to you that Mike LACK of logic > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > or use of > > >> >> > > > > > straw-men > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > BECOMES the topic because of his often use of > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > them... > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 10:19 am, Mark <[email protected]> > > >> >> > wrote: > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > jgg, > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Because it was pure mimic and did not address > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > >> >> > topic. > > >> >> > > > It > > >> >> > > > > > was > > >> >> > > > > > > > the > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > reason ALL involved were swatted and not just > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ONE. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > It was an equal opportunity swat. > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/16/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Annointed One > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) I made a clear mimic of Mike' straw-man > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - that > > >> >> > is to > > >> >> > > > say > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > something > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I post must be true because it is posted or > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the > > >> >> > web > > >> >> > > > by > > >> >> > > > > > > > people > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > who > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > support my position... > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) It also is clear Mike posts support the > > >> >> > Democrats > > >> >> > > > most > > >> >> > > > > > of > > >> >> > > > > > > > the > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > time > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- The Donkeys... And he repeatedly claims > > >> >> > Republicans > > >> >> > > > > > > > (Elephants) > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have nothing intelligent to say... > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what did I say > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Little Mike is a Donkey... It is true > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> because > > >> >> > it > > >> >> > > > is in > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > print... > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > If Little Mike denies being a Donkey, it must > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > be > > >> >> > because > > >> >> > > > he > > >> >> > > > > > has > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > nothing > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > intelligent to say... > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> This is the logic you seek to employ... > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain how calling someone an > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > unthinking > > >> >> > Donkey > > >> >> > > > is > > >> >> > > > > > a > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > personal > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > assault while the claim that someone is an > > >> >> > unthinking > > >> >> > > > > > Elephant > > >> >> > > > > > > > is > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not... Or is this just a double standard > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because > > >> >> > > > Donkeys > > >> >> > > > > > can > > >> >> > > > > > > > have > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinner skins??? > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 7:55 > > > > ... > > > > read more ยป > > > -- Mark M. Kahle, , www.filacoffee.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
