To be more accurate, it is like not having any police in a neighborhood for years, and when a new cop come into the hood he arrests the mugeee and mugger in pursuit of "fairness", which of course is fundamentally unfairly applied... Eight Years of trash talking Lefties who refuse to listen UNLESS you speak in the language of opponent-demonization while waiting for a beat cop to insist on CIVIL debate, causes one to assume no beat cop exists...
So if you moderate with an eye towards civility, I do not have to the policing of uncivil debate... Now if you don't, well back to the no beat cop days... On Feb 19, 5:13 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > To be more accurate: > > Just like the muggee that was wearing his gold necklaces an diamond > pinky rings while walking through downtown Detroit with a neon shirt > that flashes "Whitey Rules" and then wonders why the cops wanna lock > him up too. > > They can't, we can. Our way is more fair. > > On Feb 19, 3:15 pm, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Just like a beat cop who arrests the mugger and muggee for > > fighting... > > > On Feb 18, 7:48 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > jgg, > > > > There is NO denial, no conspiracy and no bullshit. Hip-hip hooray you > > > stood up for what you think is right as you were involved in it. Gee > > > aren't we supposed to do that when something bothers us. Atta-boy !! > > > > The first time Mike did this when it was my concern and I could do > > > more than simply bitch about it, I did. > > > > I am of the opinion that all members are adults and are both in deed > > > and in fact responsible for their own actions or reactions to the > > > written word. To respond to being baited in my mind is just as stupid > > > as doing the baiting. It, as my mother used to say " Sie brauchen zwei > > > Menschen zum Tango" (it takes two to Tango), > > > and you cuddled right up.... My fault or that of the board.. > > > > I THINK NOT !!!! > > > > Look in the mirror. > > > > On 2/18/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The point remains despite the lovely non-denial denial... > > > > > On Feb 18, 2:57 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Since I don't even live in the US and never have called it home your > > > > > Political comparison is lost on me. Assume what you will. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:05 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> When you called Mike on it I called out ALL people involved. > > > > > >>>> Baiting (as was done) is no better than being baited and > > > > > >>>> responding inappropriately (as was also done). > > > > > > > My point is Mikey should have been called on it BEFORE I called him > > > > > > on > > > > > > it... The standard here is either "no call unless both sides do > > > > > > it" > > > > > > or no call if done by the Left"... Both are wrong-head... > > > > > > Especially > > > > > > when it has been the Left doing this and worse baiting for 8 > > > > > > years... > > > > > > > The proper course would have been is to call Mikey for baiting and > > > > > > thanking me for been so civil in pointing it out using moderate > > > > > > language... Frankly the Left on this board is so used to trashing > > > > > > the > > > > > > Right, that they think it is the birth right... All that said, I > > > > > > applaud you if it is intend to act on reducing baiting by both side > > > > > > to > > > > > > the point where one does not have to publicly call out the baiter > > > > > > as I > > > > > > did... If it happens, I have no cause to bait and bite back... If > > > > > > it is one-sided (either way frankly) then I will assume the rule is > > > > > > applied by ideological or personal bias... And we all have seen > > > > > > that > > > > > > happen as well... > > > > > > > On Feb 18, 11:28 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Being a member does NOT give one any responsibility for someone > > > > > >> elses > > > > > >> posts. When you csalled Mike on it I called out ALL people > > > > > >> involved. > > > > > >> Baiting (as was done) is no better than being baited and responding > > > > > >> inappropriately (as was also done). This thread was the first time > > > > > >> he > > > > > >> posted a PURE off topic bait after I was a moderator. Rule 3 > > > > > >> applies > > > > > >> and the key word for this discussion is ONLY > > > > > > >> 3) Posts that are made only to insult, defame, attack or threaten > > > > > >> another member of the forum will not be tolerated and may be > > > > > >> removed. > > > > > > >> Mike was very good at getting around this. I am sorry your feelings > > > > > >> are hurt but I am NOT responsible for that. The end result was > > > > > >> that no > > > > > >> one was moderated, no one was banned, and Mike un-subscribed. If > > > > > >> you > > > > > >> want any more than that please see to it that the moderators get > > > > > >> paychecks and a medical plan. > > > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > Mark, look at the time-line... You jump on my bones days ago > > > > > >> > AFTER > > > > > >> > you were moderator... You had been a member long enough to know > > > > > >> > of > > > > > >> > Mikey's habits... When I call Mikey on them in this thread, YOU > > > > > >> > jumped my bones... > > > > > > >> > As always, you are welcome to your opinion... But NOT your > > > > > >> > facts... > > > > > > >> > On Feb 17, 5:37 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> >> jgg, > > > > > > >> >> You are, as always, welcome to your opinion. But since I was > > > > > >> >> not a Moderator > > > > > >> >> WEEKS ago your point is valueless. As soon as I found the > > > > > >> >> problem, and it > > > > > >> >> was MY problem to solve I did so. This ends this conversation. > > > > > > >> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:33 PM, jgg1000a <[email protected]> > > > > > >> >> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > You jumped on me BEFORE he unsubscribed. I am talking about > > > > > >> >> > what you > > > > > >> >> > should have done weeks ago... Instead you waited, and > > > > > >> >> > jumped my > > > > > >> >> > bones for cleaning up a mess you as moderator should have > > > > > >> >> > already > > > > > >> >> > dealt with... > > > > > > >> >> > And it was YOU who personally involved me be making a public > > > > > >> >> > rebuke of > > > > > >> >> > of myself... Which clearly I reject... Now if you in the > > > > > >> >> > future > > > > > >> >> > deal with issue like a mikey differently, clearly I will not > > > > > >> >> > be > > > > > >> >> > involved... > > > > > > >> >> > On Feb 17, 5:23 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> >> > > Hardly jgg, he un-subscribed and has NOT posted here since. > > > > > >> >> > > Bitch if you > > > > > >> >> > > like but please do NOT tell me what I did or did not do > > > > > >> >> > > correctly and > > > > > >> >> > what > > > > > >> >> > > the end result was.... especially when I was personally > > > > > >> >> > > involved and you > > > > > >> >> > > were not. > > > > > > >> >> > > On 2/17/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > > > Not sufficently AS HE CONTINUED THESE HABIT IN THIS > > > > > > >> >> > > > On Feb 17, 11:24 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> >> > > > > He was sufficiently rebuked off-board. I do NOT scream > > > > > >> >> > > > > in public. > > > > > > >> >> > > > > On 2/17/09, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Frankly Mark, when a poster is a consist baiter, you > > > > > >> >> > > > > > in fact should > > > > > >> >> > > > > > single him out to the exclusion of those who respond > > > > > >> >> > > > > > to him in kind > > > > > >> >> > > > > > WHEN the moderators fali to stop the civil discussion > > > > > >> >> > > > > > killing > > > > > >> >> > > > > > baiting... And Mikey was that and did that... It > > > > > >> >> > > > > > is called if > > > > > >> >> > the > > > > > >> >> > > > > > rulers refuse to act the people should.. > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Instead of thinking you nipped something in the bud, > > > > > >> >> > > > > > you in fact > > > > > >> >> > > > > > ALLOWED it to become an issue where individuals had > > > > > >> >> > > > > > to do your > > > > > >> >> > > > > > OFFICIAL moderating... We all have been on too > > > > > >> >> > > > > > many boards not > > > > > >> >> > to > > > > > >> >> > > > > > know this... > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:39 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > Yes, I really do get the whole scenario. That is > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > why the "baiter" > > > > > >> >> > was > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > included in the warning as well. > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > I very seldom go to the states anymore. The last > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > visit was for > > > > > >> >> > two > > > > > >> >> > > > weeks > > > > > >> >> > > > > > to > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > visit friends. I really don't care for the > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > hustle-bustle. I tend > > > > > >> >> > to > > > > > >> >> > > > visit > > > > > >> >> > > > > > my > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > "home" country more.. Germany. If you ever visit > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > Costa Rica I > > > > > >> >> > would > > > > > >> >> > > > be > > > > > >> >> > > > > > happy > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > to buy you several. > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:30 PM, RichardForbes < > > > > > >> >> > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > If we are ever in the same town, I would be glad > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > to buy you a > > > > > >> >> > beer. > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > As for giving it to Mikey, that whole thing > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > started with the > > > > > >> >> > > > "little > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > dick" routine. But, he made the choice and was > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > not able to > > > > > >> >> > handle > > > > > >> >> > > > the > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > pressure. > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:20 pm, Mark <[email protected]> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > And you seem to like giving it to him. As to > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > the blame... > > > > > >> >> > that > > > > > >> >> > > > and a > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > dollar > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > will stiil buy me a really cold beer. > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:07 PM, RichardForbes < > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > He will blame it on you, as he has done to > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > others > > > > > >> >> > > > before. Mikey > > > > > >> >> > > > > > seeks > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > attention and is willing to stoop to any > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > level to get it. > > > > > >> >> > He > > > > > >> >> > > > will > > > > > >> >> > > > > > be > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > back, if for no other reason than the fact > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > that he gets > > > > > >> >> > > > attention > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 5:17 pm, Mark > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > I accept that. Mike has un-subscribed all > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > by himself. > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:06 PM, jgg1000a < > > > > > >> >> > > > [email protected]> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Let me suggest to you that Mike LACK of > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > logic or use > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
