Bruce, I agree that the US policy under Reagan was "silly". There are many other words I could use but putting Alzheimer Ronnie on a pedestal and ignoring the deaths of innocents while trying to reconcile it with "He had to follow a Democrats (Truman) Doctrine" is indeed silly.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:59 PM, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > silly > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Keith In Tampa >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Mark, >>> >>> What kind of "domestic state" do you envision the United States to be in? >>> >>> With regard to "reading some history"....I am quite familiar with the >>> United States's foreign policy in South and Central America during not only >>> the 1980s, but our policy for the last two hundred years. Clearly, there >>> have been some mistakes, as well as some rather grand achievements. >>> >> >> Some mistakes ??? Those "mistakes" make 9/11 look like a church picnic and >> Reagan and his policies were DIRECTLY responsible. No not some "downstream" >> unforseeable side or after effect... but tens of thousands of corpses lying >> in streets and jungles. >> >> Next to his little forays into Central America EVERYTHING AQ has done so >> far is not even clos to Reagans intentional devastaion in three different >> American nations. >> >> To suggest that President Reagan made some kind of serious faux pas in >> South America, in particular Nicaragua, is revisionist spin. President >> Reagan campaigned, and had the overwhelming majority of Americans' support >> in combatting the spread of communism in the region, which was in fact, a >> continuation of the Truman Doctrine! >> >> Typical BS spin.... there were and are not any "commies" in Central >> America. Not one country here has ever had its electoral process overseen, >> can you say the same ?? >> >> Further, the same people holding office in the eighties have been >> re-elected yet again.. Ortega is President of Nicaragua, Arias is President >> of Costa Rica ...... funny but now ..... with the same elected parties and >> platforms these two countries are the USA favorite retirement and investment >> areas........... >> >> Like I said........... things here haven't changed... just the BS spewing >> from the US mind and mouth. How right could he have been ?? >> >> >> You seem to forget the melancholy that our Nation suffered after four >> years of Jimma, the debacle in Iran, and the expansionist Soviet Union's >> policies during the same era. >> >> 40 thousand dead Americans (indescriminate as to man woman or child) are >> sorry your feelings were damaged.... I KNOW.... they made you do it. >> >>> >>> With all due respect, maybe it is you that need to go back and refresh >>> your memory of the era, and what actually took place in this Nation, as well >>> as in the region that you reference!! >>> >> >> What does what took place within your borders have to do with your >> populaces ignorant fear of that which is not ?? So if things are rough >> elsewhere they can aleviate their worries by sending a death sqad or two to >> the USA and expect your understanding. >> >> I should feel safer knowing that the Heroin addict is doing the Reagan >> crops juice. You should feel good about all the crime and medical/jail bills >> you pay for are because the US was "uncomfortable" and had NO long range >> plan or sight. >> >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Hollywood <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Mark, >>>> >>>> Some people have apparantly never heard of Central AMERICA or South >>>> AMERICA. >>>> >>>> On Jun 8, 11:47 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Views and revisionist visions like that are EXACTLY why the USA is in >>>> the >>>> > domestic state it is and the disrespect of the world that it presently >>>> > suffers. >>>> > >>>> > I do believe you should read some history about the dark side and >>>> misdeeds >>>> > of of Alzheimer Ronnie. He did in fact approve the gfunding for bin >>>> Laden >>>> > and his group, he did in fact pay (with your tax dollars) for the >>>> poppy seed >>>> > that is AQs' major source of funding, he did in Fact wage war against >>>> an >>>> > American Democracy and mine the harbors and lands of American >>>> nations... he >>>> > did fund murder squads, he did ................................... >>>> > >>>> > Really great guy there. >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Keith In Tampa < >>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > Mark, Mark, Mark! >>>> > > that >>>> > > Ronald Reagan is the greatest American President in our lifetime; >>>> Ronald >>>> > > Reagan was definitely the greatest American President in the 20th >>>> Century, >>>> > > period. President Reagan didn't train bin Laden, but if you want to >>>> go with >>>> > > this train of thought, blame Truman and the Truman Doctrine, which >>>> was the >>>> > > purpose of the United States aiding the Mujahadeen during the early >>>> 1980s. >>>> > > President Reagan had absolutely nothing to do with al Queida, since >>>> al >>>> > > Queida wasn't formed until the mid to late 1990s. (You totally >>>> lost me >>>> > > with the "killing more Americans than anyone since WWII) Landmines? >>>> Why do >>>> > > you point to President Reagan? Why not every President since >>>> Lincoln? >>>> > > (Lincoln had no problem using land mines against his own people here >>>> in the >>>> > > Southeastern United States!! >>>> > >>>> > > YES!! I MISS RONALD REAGAN!! AMERICA MISSES RONALD REAGAN!!! >>>> > >>>> > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:57 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE < >>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >> Alzheimer Ronnie... the man responsible for training bin laden, >>>> > >> responsible for the funding of AQ (his poppy seeds are still >>>> > >> producing), responsible for arming Iraq, and for killing more >>>> > >> Americans than anyone since WWII. They are still dying from his >>>> > >> landmines laid on American soil. >>>> > >>>> > >> Yep.... The hero for idiots. >>>> > >>>> > >> On Jun 7, 8:44 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >> > Cold, >>>> > >>>> > >> > Exactly what i said. he was the master of the one-liner that >>>> sounded >>>> > >> > great and could mean pretty much anything or nothing at all. His >>>> > >> > saving grace was that he had the sense to generally pick good >>>> advisors >>>> > >> > and listen to them, knowing full well that he himself was not the >>>> > >> > sharpest knife in the drawer. >>>> > >>>> > >> > On Jun 7, 8:54 am, Cold Water <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >> > > What did hom do to deserve such high praise from you Woody? >>>> > >>>> > >> > > CW >>>> > >>>> > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > >> > > From: "Hollywood" <[email protected]> >>>> > >> > > To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]> >>>> > >> > > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 09:11 >>>> > >> > > Subject: Re: YES! I do miss him! >>>> > >>>> > >> > > Cold Water, >>>> > >>>> > >> > > I liked to call hom the bumper-sticker President. >>>> > >>>> > >> > > On Jun 7, 6:30 am, Cold Water <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >> > > > DO YOU MISS THIS GUY? >>>> > >>>> > >> > > > 'Here's my strategy on the Cold War: >>>> > >> > > > We win, they lose.'- Ronald Reagan >>>> > >>>> > >> > > > 'The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm >>>> from the >>>> > >> government and I'm here to help.'-Ronald Reagan >>>> > >>>> > >> > > > 'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're >>>> ignorant; >>>> > >> it's just that they know so much that isn't so.'- Ronald Reagan >>>> > >>>> > >> > > > 'Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the >>>> U.S. >>>> > >> was too strong.'- Ronald Reagan >>>> > >>>> > >> > > > 'I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandments >>>> would have >>>> > >> looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress.'- >>>> Ronald Reagan >>>> > >>>> > >> > > > ATT000041.jpg >>>> > >> > > > 20KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - >>>> > >>>> > >> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>>> > >>>> > >> > - Show quoted text - >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Mark M. Kahle, ,www.filacoffee.com- Hide quoted text - >>>> > >>>> > - Show quoted text - >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark M. Kahle, , >>>> www.filacoffee.com >>>> >>>> >>>> > > > > -- Mark M. Kahle, , www.filacoffee.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
