NO ?? How many dead for no reason do we need ?? Further, that was not part of the issue.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 4:22 PM, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > You haven't made your case that interventions in Latin America are of the > same order of magnitude as those in Iraq and Afghanistan > > I would suggest you redo your homework for partial credit tomorrow > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Gee Bruce there were so many unmapped landmines planted they are still >> actively removing them with an estimated 6000 more to go..... >> >> These countries had NO terrorist groups (Reagan planted, funded and >> trained them). Yet the USA butchered tens of thousands. >> >> These countries had Democratically elected governments and peaceful >> sucession of power, Yet the USA planted land mines. >> >> These countries had no more of a direct tie or dealings with the USSR than >> the USA. Yet you blockaded their harbors and sank their ships. >> >> Compare that with moving men from Afghanistan (a necessary war) to Iraq to >> remove WMDs that never were, to destroy a nuclear program that wasn't, to >> relieve them of bio-chemical weapons that ddn't exist. >> >> Yeah silly........... and extremely STUPID. >> >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 4:09 PM, bruce majors <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> you remain silly >>> >>> to compare whatever Reagan did in some Latin American countries to Iraq, >>> Pakistan, Afghanistan is silly >>> >>> your bond rating just sank >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Bruce, >>>> >>>> I agree that the US policy under Reagan was "silly". There are many >>>> other words I could use but putting Alzheimer Ronnie on a pedestal and >>>> ignoring the deaths of innocents while trying to reconcile it with "He had >>>> to follow a Democrats (Truman) Doctrine" is indeed silly. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:59 PM, bruce majors >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> silly >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What kind of "domestic state" do you envision the United States to be >>>>>>> in? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With regard to "reading some history"....I am quite familiar with the >>>>>>> United States's foreign policy in South and Central America during not >>>>>>> only >>>>>>> the 1980s, but our policy for the last two hundred years. Clearly, >>>>>>> there >>>>>>> have been some mistakes, as well as some rather grand achievements. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Some mistakes ??? Those "mistakes" make 9/11 look like a church picnic >>>>>> and Reagan and his policies were DIRECTLY responsible. No not some >>>>>> "downstream" unforseeable side or after effect... but tens of thousands >>>>>> of >>>>>> corpses lying in streets and jungles. >>>>>> >>>>>> Next to his little forays into Central America EVERYTHING AQ has done >>>>>> so far is not even clos to Reagans intentional devastaion in three >>>>>> different >>>>>> American nations. >>>>>> >>>>>> To suggest that President Reagan made some kind of serious faux pas in >>>>>> South America, in particular Nicaragua, is revisionist spin. President >>>>>> Reagan campaigned, and had the overwhelming majority of Americans' >>>>>> support >>>>>> in combatting the spread of communism in the region, which was in fact, a >>>>>> continuation of the Truman Doctrine! >>>>>> >>>>>> Typical BS spin.... there were and are not any "commies" in Central >>>>>> America. Not one country here has ever had its electoral process >>>>>> overseen, >>>>>> can you say the same ?? >>>>>> >>>>>> Further, the same people holding office in the eighties have been >>>>>> re-elected yet again.. Ortega is President of Nicaragua, Arias is >>>>>> President >>>>>> of Costa Rica ...... funny but now ..... with the same elected parties >>>>>> and >>>>>> platforms these two countries are the USA favorite retirement and >>>>>> investment >>>>>> areas........... >>>>>> >>>>>> Like I said........... things here haven't changed... just the BS >>>>>> spewing from the US mind and mouth. How right could he have been ?? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You seem to forget the melancholy that our Nation suffered after >>>>>> four years of Jimma, the debacle in Iran, and the expansionist Soviet >>>>>> Union's policies during the same era. >>>>>> >>>>>> 40 thousand dead Americans (indescriminate as to man woman or child) >>>>>> are sorry your feelings were damaged.... I KNOW.... they made you do it. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With all due respect, maybe it is you that need to go back and >>>>>>> refresh your memory of the era, and what actually took place in this >>>>>>> Nation, >>>>>>> as well as in the region that you reference!! >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What does what took place within your borders have to do with your >>>>>> populaces ignorant fear of that which is not ?? So if things are rough >>>>>> elsewhere they can aleviate their worries by sending a death sqad or two >>>>>> to >>>>>> the USA and expect your understanding. >>>>>> >>>>>> I should feel safer knowing that the Heroin addict is doing the Reagan >>>>>> crops juice. You should feel good about all the crime and medical/jail >>>>>> bills >>>>>> you pay for are because the US was "uncomfortable" and had NO long range >>>>>> plan or sight. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Keith >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Hollywood < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mark, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some people have apparantly never heard of Central AMERICA or South >>>>>>>> AMERICA. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 8, 11:47 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> > Views and revisionist visions like that are EXACTLY why the USA is >>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>> > domestic state it is and the disrespect of the world that it >>>>>>>> presently >>>>>>>> > suffers. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > I do believe you should read some history about the dark side and >>>>>>>> misdeeds >>>>>>>> > of of Alzheimer Ronnie. He did in fact approve the gfunding for >>>>>>>> bin Laden >>>>>>>> > and his group, he did in fact pay (with your tax dollars) for the >>>>>>>> poppy seed >>>>>>>> > that is AQs' major source of funding, he did in Fact wage war >>>>>>>> against an >>>>>>>> > American Democracy and mine the harbors and lands of American >>>>>>>> nations... he >>>>>>>> > did fund murder squads, he did ................................... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Really great guy there. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Mark, Mark, Mark! >>>>>>>> > > that >>>>>>>> > > Ronald Reagan is the greatest American President in our >>>>>>>> lifetime; Ronald >>>>>>>> > > Reagan was definitely the greatest American President in the >>>>>>>> 20th Century, >>>>>>>> > > period. President Reagan didn't train bin Laden, but if you >>>>>>>> want to go with >>>>>>>> > > this train of thought, blame Truman and the Truman Doctrine, >>>>>>>> which was the >>>>>>>> > > purpose of the United States aiding the Mujahadeen during the >>>>>>>> early 1980s. >>>>>>>> > > President Reagan had absolutely nothing to do with al Queida, >>>>>>>> since al >>>>>>>> > > Queida wasn't formed until the mid to late 1990s. (You totally >>>>>>>> lost me >>>>>>>> > > with the "killing more Americans than anyone since WWII) >>>>>>>> Landmines? Why do >>>>>>>> > > you point to President Reagan? Why not every President since >>>>>>>> Lincoln? >>>>>>>> > > (Lincoln had no problem using land mines against his own people >>>>>>>> here in the >>>>>>>> > > Southeastern United States!! >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > YES!! I MISS RONALD REAGAN!! AMERICA MISSES RONALD REAGAN!!! >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:57 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE < >>>>>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> Alzheimer Ronnie... the man responsible for training bin laden, >>>>>>>> > >> responsible for the funding of AQ (his poppy seeds are still >>>>>>>> > >> producing), responsible for arming Iraq, and for killing more >>>>>>>> > >> Americans than anyone since WWII. They are still dying from his >>>>>>>> > >> landmines laid on American soil. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> Yep.... The hero for idiots. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> On Jun 7, 8:44 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> > Cold, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > Exactly what i said. he was the master of the one-liner that >>>>>>>> sounded >>>>>>>> > >> > great and could mean pretty much anything or nothing at all. >>>>>>>> His >>>>>>>> > >> > saving grace was that he had the sense to generally pick good >>>>>>>> advisors >>>>>>>> > >> > and listen to them, knowing full well that he himself was not >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> > >> > sharpest knife in the drawer. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > On Jun 7, 8:54 am, Cold Water <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > What did hom do to deserve such high praise from you Woody? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > CW >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> > >> > > From: "Hollywood" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> > >> > > To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> > >> > > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 09:11 >>>>>>>> > >> > > Subject: Re: YES! I do miss him! >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > Cold Water, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > I liked to call hom the bumper-sticker President. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > On Jun 7, 6:30 am, Cold Water <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> > > > DO YOU MISS THIS GUY? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > 'Here's my strategy on the Cold War: >>>>>>>> > >> > > > We win, they lose.'- Ronald Reagan >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > 'The most terrifying words in the English language are: >>>>>>>> I'm from the >>>>>>>> > >> government and I'm here to help.'-Ronald Reagan >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > 'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're >>>>>>>> ignorant; >>>>>>>> > >> it's just that they know so much that isn't so.'- Ronald Reagan >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > 'Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because >>>>>>>> the U.S. >>>>>>>> > >> was too strong.'- Ronald Reagan >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > 'I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandments >>>>>>>> would have >>>>>>>> > >> looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress.'- >>>>>>>> Ronald Reagan >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > ATT000041.jpg >>>>>>>> > >> > > > 20KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>> > Mark M. 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