Nicaragua says it has spent 9.7 million ......... all from the OAS. Ortegas politics and policies still have not changed... As far as a supposed split by the Ortega faction of the government.... he did not split, he followed through then as he does now with his policies of an extreme socialist bend.... so what !!!!!!!!!!!! He was just as elected and Nicaragua is just as sovereign as the US despite their supposed "regional protection plans" to which no one is a signatory accept the US. Unilateral policies did not work then (another post wwii loss) and they do not work now.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>wrote: > Mark, > > As stated, I openly admit that our foreign policy has been inconsistent, > and we have made some mistakes. I concede that. Where I differ, and where > I believe you are overlooking a major point, was that Ortega's brand of > Sandanistas were communist, at the height of the cold war, when the Truman > Doctrine was in place, and when Ronald Reagan vowed to end it, as well as > "The Evil Empire". Ortega caused a split within the Sandanistas, of which > the United States was funding and agreeable to supporting in the overthrow > of Somoza. Many tend to forget this chapter. > > The United States as committed over 500 million dollars to the removal of > landmines within the region, so once again, (and I say this with humor!!!) > you are "slightly spinning" when you suggest that the OAS and all American > Nation-States are funding the removal of these landmines!! > > To lay all of the blame at Ronald Reagan's feet is misplaced, unfair, and > not at all a true and accurate reflection of history!! > > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Marxist/Leninist huh ?? So what.... How about Democratically elected >> President of what was a peaceful nation prior to US "intervention" ?? >> >> A nation that had the same right as yours to speak with anyone they so >> cose. >> >> No spin yet. >> >> As to the landmines.... HOW MANY YEARS and inadvertant innocent deaths >> later ?? How many ICJ crimes against humanity convictions and fines later ?? >> and still six thousand to go.. >> >> Oh, they don't count. Reagan withdrew from that courts oversight just as >> he was convicted.... >> >> >> still no spin.... >> >> Were there political differences between the parties in Nicaragua ?? Then >> and now, absolutely... How does that vary from those in your nation ?? >> >> 135,000 land mines that all say "made in USA". I can guarantee you that >> the Sandanistas did not pay for those.. Plus, with no spin... those laid by >> the sandanistas were in the border area with Honduras blocking the ingress >> of US backed rebels (Contras) the locations were mapped and removal >> accomplished easily. As to funding for the removal...that is from the OAS, >> NOT the USA, though the USA did contribute to the fund just as did every >> other American nation. The un mapped and therefore the most dangerous mines >> and still looked for were laid by the USA backed Contras..... Please try to >> get it right... >> >> still no spin........ >> >> Over 40,000 were killed in the Contra-Sandanista conflict.... there was no >> "Contra" without US backing at Reagans personal behest. >> >> As to the heroin produced in Afghanistan today.... you tell me where they >> got the seed... another failed longterm plan that has backfired.... Yes, I >> blame Reagan and his team for every junky in the US that bangs a load of >> Afghan white and all the crime that results and all the medical bills that >> result.... He planted it. >> >> As far as my intense dislike for Reagan.... it is equal with my dislike >> for another USA hero Felix Rodriguez, that personally led the Contras.... I >> am German.... I was assigned as an observer in Nicaragua during the >> conflict... I saw with my own eyes and was informed by Felix the Ferret >> personally as to what was USA policy. >> >> As to Carters policy.....try again. >> The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan Interview with Zbigniew >> Brzezinski, >> President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser >> >> Le Nouvel Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998 >> Posted at globalresearch.ca <http://www.globalresearch.ca/> 15 October >> 2001 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his >> memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to >> aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. >> In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. >> You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct? >> >> Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to >> the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army >> invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until >> now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President >> Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the >> pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the >> president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going >> to induce a Soviet military intervention. >> >> Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But >> perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to >> provoke it? >> >> B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we >> knowingly increased the probability that they would. >> >> Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they >> intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in >> Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of >> truth. You don't regret anything today? >> >> B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the >> effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to >> regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote >> to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its >> Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war >> unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the >> demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire. >> >> Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, >> having given arms and advice to future terrorists? >> >> B: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the >> collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of >> Central Europe and the end of the cold war? >> >> Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated Islamic >> fundamentalism represents a world menace today. >> >> B: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to >> Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a >> rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading >> religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in >> common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan >> militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more >> than what unites the Christian countries. >> >> Translated from the French by Bill Blum >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Mark, >>> >>> Who is spinning here? (Answer: You Are My Friend!!!) >>> >>> Daniel Ortega is a professed and admitted Marxist/Leninist. Ortega >>> caused a split in the FLSN, "Sandanista Movement back in the late 1970s >>> because of his insistence of leading the Sandanistas, (which at one time had >>> the support of the American government to overthrow Somoza!!!) >>> >>> Former Sandanista Alfonso Callejas and later to be President (also US >>> supported) Sandanista Violeta Chamorro broke off from Ortega and his >>> militant communist buddy, Sergio Mercado in 1979/1980 because of their >>> communist/Lenninist leanings!! >>> >>> >>> Do you want to retract the claim you have made about President Reagan >>> being responsible for the landmines now, or do you want me to embarass you >>> by printing the facts with the documentation here in this thread, as to who >>> is responsible for the predominance of laying those landmines?? >>> >>> Either way, it is now the United States government who has financed the >>> removal of ALL OF THE LANDMINES in Nicaragua, (some 135,000 laid by the >>> Sandanistas!!!) >>> >>> Let me know if you want to retract your inaccurate misleading >>> statements, or if you would prefer that I go ahead and document what it is >>> that I am talking about!! >>> >>> In the same vein, what, how and where are you getting that President >>> Reagan is responsible for 40,000 dead Americans? Do you attribute all >>> heroin users to President Reagan? Geez, talk about a stretch!! If this is >>> the case, why can't we attribute them to President Carter? He was funding >>> the same fields as President Reagan, (again, do you want me to produce the >>> documentation, or do you want to retract your statements??) >>> >>> I am surprised, you are usually quite astute, and pretty much on the mark >>> with historical facts, but you are way off course on this matter, which >>> again, is surprising considering that you are living in the region!! I >>> sense that there is some deep hatred for Reagan on your part, that is >>> unjustified, and clearly, what you wrote above is just flat out inaccurate!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The predominance of the landmines was laid by the Nicarquan Army, your >>> hero, >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> NO ?? How many dead for no reason do we need ?? >>>> >>>> Further, that was not part of the issue. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 4:22 PM, bruce majors >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> You haven't made your case that interventions in Latin America are of >>>>> the same order of magnitude as those in Iraq and Afghanistan >>>>> >>>>> I would suggest you redo your homework for partial credit tomorrow >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Gee Bruce there were so many unmapped landmines planted they are still >>>>>> actively removing them with an estimated 6000 more to go..... >>>>>> >>>>>> These countries had NO terrorist groups (Reagan planted, funded and >>>>>> trained them). Yet the USA butchered tens of thousands. >>>>>> >>>>>> These countries had Democratically elected governments and peaceful >>>>>> sucession of power, Yet the USA planted land mines. >>>>>> >>>>>> These countries had no more of a direct tie or dealings with the USSR >>>>>> than the USA. Yet you blockaded their harbors and sank their ships. >>>>>> >>>>>> Compare that with moving men from Afghanistan (a necessary war) to >>>>>> Iraq to remove WMDs that never were, to destroy a nuclear program that >>>>>> wasn't, to relieve them of bio-chemical weapons that ddn't exist. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah silly........... and extremely STUPID. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 4:09 PM, bruce majors >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> you remain silly >>>>>>> >>>>>>> to compare whatever Reagan did in some Latin American countries to >>>>>>> Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan is silly >>>>>>> >>>>>>> your bond rating just sank >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bruce, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree that the US policy under Reagan was "silly". There are many >>>>>>>> other words I could use but putting Alzheimer Ronnie on a pedestal and >>>>>>>> ignoring the deaths of innocents while trying to reconcile it with "He >>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>> to follow a Democrats (Truman) Doctrine" is indeed silly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:59 PM, bruce majors < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> silly >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mark, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What kind of "domestic state" do you envision the United States >>>>>>>>>>> to be in? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> With regard to "reading some history"....I am quite familiar with >>>>>>>>>>> the United States's foreign policy in South and Central America >>>>>>>>>>> during not >>>>>>>>>>> only the 1980s, but our policy for the last two hundred years. >>>>>>>>>>> Clearly, >>>>>>>>>>> there have been some mistakes, as well as some rather grand >>>>>>>>>>> achievements. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Some mistakes ??? Those "mistakes" make 9/11 look like a church >>>>>>>>>> picnic and Reagan and his policies were DIRECTLY responsible. No not >>>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>> "downstream" unforseeable side or after effect... but tens of >>>>>>>>>> thousands of >>>>>>>>>> corpses lying in streets and jungles. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Next to his little forays into Central America EVERYTHING AQ has >>>>>>>>>> done so far is not even clos to Reagans intentional devastaion in >>>>>>>>>> three >>>>>>>>>> different American nations. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To suggest that President Reagan made some kind of serious faux >>>>>>>>>> pas in South America, in particular Nicaragua, is revisionist spin. >>>>>>>>>> President Reagan campaigned, and had the overwhelming majority of >>>>>>>>>> Americans' >>>>>>>>>> support in combatting the spread of communism in the region, which >>>>>>>>>> was in >>>>>>>>>> fact, a continuation of the Truman Doctrine! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Typical BS spin.... there were and are not any "commies" in >>>>>>>>>> Central America. Not one country here has ever had its electoral >>>>>>>>>> process >>>>>>>>>> overseen, can you say the same ?? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Further, the same people holding office in the eighties have been >>>>>>>>>> re-elected yet again.. Ortega is President of Nicaragua, Arias is >>>>>>>>>> President >>>>>>>>>> of Costa Rica ...... funny but now ..... with the same elected >>>>>>>>>> parties and >>>>>>>>>> platforms these two countries are the USA favorite retirement and >>>>>>>>>> investment >>>>>>>>>> areas........... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Like I said........... things here haven't changed... just the BS >>>>>>>>>> spewing from the US mind and mouth. How right could he have been ?? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You seem to forget the melancholy that our Nation suffered after >>>>>>>>>> four years of Jimma, the debacle in Iran, and the expansionist Soviet >>>>>>>>>> Union's policies during the same era. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 40 thousand dead Americans (indescriminate as to man woman or >>>>>>>>>> child) are sorry your feelings were damaged.... I KNOW.... they >>>>>>>>>> made you do >>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> With all due respect, maybe it is you that need to go back and >>>>>>>>>>> refresh your memory of the era, and what actually took place in >>>>>>>>>>> this Nation, >>>>>>>>>>> as well as in the region that you reference!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What does what took place within your borders have to do with your >>>>>>>>>> populaces ignorant fear of that which is not ?? So if things are >>>>>>>>>> rough >>>>>>>>>> elsewhere they can aleviate their worries by sending a death sqad or >>>>>>>>>> two to >>>>>>>>>> the USA and expect your understanding. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I should feel safer knowing that the Heroin addict is doing the >>>>>>>>>> Reagan crops juice. You should feel good about all the crime and >>>>>>>>>> medical/jail bills you pay for are because the US was >>>>>>>>>> "uncomfortable" and >>>>>>>>>> had NO long range plan or sight. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Keith >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Hollywood < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mark, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Some people have apparantly never heard of Central AMERICA or >>>>>>>>>>>> South >>>>>>>>>>>> AMERICA. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 8, 11:47 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> > Views and revisionist visions like that are EXACTLY why the >>>>>>>>>>>> USA is in the >>>>>>>>>>>> > domestic state it is and the disrespect of the world that it >>>>>>>>>>>> presently >>>>>>>>>>>> > suffers. >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > I do believe you should read some history about the dark side >>>>>>>>>>>> and misdeeds >>>>>>>>>>>> > of of Alzheimer Ronnie. He did in fact approve the gfunding >>>>>>>>>>>> for bin Laden >>>>>>>>>>>> > and his group, he did in fact pay (with your tax dollars) for >>>>>>>>>>>> the poppy seed >>>>>>>>>>>> > that is AQs' major source of funding, he did in Fact wage war >>>>>>>>>>>> against an >>>>>>>>>>>> > American Democracy and mine the harbors and lands of American >>>>>>>>>>>> nations... he >>>>>>>>>>>> > did fund murder squads, he did >>>>>>>>>>>> ................................... >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Really great guy there. >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > Mark, Mark, Mark! >>>>>>>>>>>> > > that >>>>>>>>>>>> > > Ronald Reagan is the greatest American President in our >>>>>>>>>>>> lifetime; Ronald >>>>>>>>>>>> > > Reagan was definitely the greatest American President in the >>>>>>>>>>>> 20th Century, >>>>>>>>>>>> > > period. President Reagan didn't train bin Laden, but if you >>>>>>>>>>>> want to go with >>>>>>>>>>>> > > this train of thought, blame Truman and the Truman Doctrine, >>>>>>>>>>>> which was the >>>>>>>>>>>> > > purpose of the United States aiding the Mujahadeen during >>>>>>>>>>>> the early 1980s. >>>>>>>>>>>> > > President Reagan had absolutely nothing to do with al >>>>>>>>>>>> Queida, since al >>>>>>>>>>>> > > Queida wasn't formed until the mid to late 1990s. (You >>>>>>>>>>>> totally lost me >>>>>>>>>>>> > > with the "killing more Americans than anyone since WWII) >>>>>>>>>>>> Landmines? Why do >>>>>>>>>>>> > > you point to President Reagan? Why not every President >>>>>>>>>>>> since Lincoln? >>>>>>>>>>>> > > (Lincoln had no problem using land mines against his own >>>>>>>>>>>> people here in the >>>>>>>>>>>> > > Southeastern United States!! >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > YES!! I MISS RONALD REAGAN!! AMERICA MISSES RONALD >>>>>>>>>>>> REAGAN!!! >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:57 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Alzheimer Ronnie... the man responsible for training bin >>>>>>>>>>>> laden, >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> responsible for the funding of AQ (his poppy seeds are >>>>>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> producing), responsible for arming Iraq, and for killing >>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Americans than anyone since WWII. They are still dying from >>>>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> landmines laid on American soil. >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Yep.... The hero for idiots. >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Jun 7, 8:44 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > Cold, >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > Exactly what i said. he was the master of the one-liner >>>>>>>>>>>> that sounded >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > great and could mean pretty much anything or nothing at >>>>>>>>>>>> all. His >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > saving grace was that he had the sense to generally pick >>>>>>>>>>>> good advisors >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > and listen to them, knowing full well that he himself was >>>>>>>>>>>> not the >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > sharpest knife in the drawer. >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > On Jun 7, 8:54 am, Cold Water <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > What did hom do to deserve such high praise from you >>>>>>>>>>>> Woody? >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > CW >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > From: "Hollywood" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 09:11 >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > Subject: Re: YES! I do miss him! >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > Cold Water, >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > I liked to call hom the bumper-sticker President. >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > On Jun 7, 6:30 am, Cold Water <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > DO YOU MISS THIS GUY? >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > 'Here's my strategy on the Cold War: >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > We win, they lose.'- Ronald Reagan >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > 'The most terrifying words in the English language >>>>>>>>>>>> are: I'm from the >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> government and I'm here to help.'-Ronald Reagan >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > 'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that >>>>>>>>>>>> they're ignorant; >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> it's just that they know so much that isn't so.'- Ronald >>>>>>>>>>>> Reagan >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > 'Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about >>>>>>>>>>>> because the U.S. >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> was too strong.'- Ronald Reagan >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > 'I have wondered at times about what the Ten >>>>>>>>>>>> Commandments would have >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. >>>>>>>>>>>> Congress.'- Ronald Reagan >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > ATT000041.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > 20KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>>>>> > Mark M. 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