KIT, Good for you, enjoy your Father's Day.
But that dosen't answer my post. On Jun 21, 2:51 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Uhm......Holly??? > > I am outside, drinkin' beer, watching the grill, occasionally glancing at > the laptop, and trust me on this one.....I ain't wearin' no panties this > afternoon!!! > > (LOL!) > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > KIT, > > > Oh I understood what you said. I simply stronly disagree with it. > > Are YOU attempting to suggest it is Un-American to NOT solve > > potentially dangerous situations with firearms? Please take note I did > > not suggest either option was Un-American. YOU took it upon yourself > > to offer the personal opinion as to what was un-American, not I. > > Where the fuck did I even mention law-enforcement officers? > > That would be true only if burglers knew, or strongly suspected, the > > homeowner had firearms and knew how to use them. You do realize that > > the vast majority of burglaries take place when there's no one at home > > to use said firearms. In fact burglarizing un-occupied homes is a > > common way for criminals to obtain firearms. > > > Why do you have your panties all wadded up over the idea that someone > > would suggest firearms are not the only, or even the first option, in > > dealing with confrontational situations? Why has gotten you so riled > > up? I'd HATE to have to kill someone just because I had neither the > > skills or inclination to resolve the situation any other way. The > > pistol I always carry with me I regard as a LAST RESORT to save me > > from serious harm or death. Why would I want to kill a person I did > > not absolutely HAVE to? And no, I would not kill a human being over > > material property. I have insurance on my property. > > > On Jun 21, 2:08 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Once again Holly, > > > > I encourage you to read, and then re-read the posts, so you (and other > > > Democrats and far left extremists) can attempt to comprehend and > > > understand.....Especially before you get on a board and start making > > > inconsequential statements. > > > > Let's review one more time: > > > > Dik said: > > > > "Guns are the lazy solution to problems." > > > > Then, after giving an abridged history lesson regarding firearms in our > > > Nation, I made the remark: > > > > "There is nothing lazy about discouraging an attack with firearms Dick, > > it > > > is the American way! Anything less is un-American!" > > > > Now, what part of my message is it that you don't believe, "I suggested"? > > > > What part of my message is it that you are not fully comprehending? Are > > you > > > attempting to suggest that it is Un-American for folks to carry firearms > > as > > > a deterrent? Are you trying to suggest that the purpose of law > > enforcement > > > officers carrying a gun is not as a deterrent? Do you not believe that > > > folks who have firearms in their homes are less likely to be burglarized > > > than folks who are unarmed, and if your answer is "Yes"; then don't you > > > think this is because of the deterrence factor? > > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Hollywood <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > KIT, > > > > > Of course they are part of our history, lots of things are. So what? > > > > No you didn't just "suggest it". You even went so far as to say > > > > anything less than your opinion was "un-American". Firearms should be > > > > used as sparingly as possible, you can't recall a bullet once it has > > > > been fired. > > > > > On Jun 21, 10:40 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hello Holly! > > > > > > Happy Father's Day to you also! > > > > > > Okay, real quick, maybe you can understand this, if I make it simple. > > > > > > Dik suggests that guns are not the answer. In fact, Dik says, "Guns > > are > > > > the > > > > > lazy solution to problems." > > > > > > I suggest to Dik that guns are a part of our history, and have worked > > > > well > > > > > as a deterrent as well as a negotiating factor for assholes who seem > > to > > > > be a > > > > > little slow, over two hundred years. > > > > > > Dik becomes quiet, Perp proves that my theory is correct by > > discussing > > > > how > > > > > she almost blew away a S.O.B. with a Mossberg. > > > > > > Almost time to fire up the grills here in Tampa Town, but if you have > > any > > > > > more questions, or if I can clarify anything else for ya, by all > > means, > > > > give > > > > > a Hollar!! > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Hollywood < > > [email protected] > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > KIT, > > > > > > > Morning Keith, Happy Father's Day. > > > > > > > Oh yes, please do explain to me what your little essay has to do > > with > > > > > > how rapists pick out their targets. > > > > > > I look at a given post and scroll down to the little line that says > > > > > > "Show quoted text" to see what that post is responding to. I don't > > go > > > > > > wandering thru the thread or threads trying to find a post that > > maybe, > > > > > > might have something to do with it. > > > > > > > On Jun 21, 6:23 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Good Morning Dik, > > > > > > > > Unlike Dick, I tend to believe you. We all have had life > > experiences > > > > > > where > > > > > > > we have options to either master and use our diplomatic > > skills.....Or > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > I too have been successful in negotiating a number of tense > > > > situations, > > > > > > (my > > > > > > > story is long and boring!!) but I have also been in situations > > where > > > > > > one's > > > > > > > "diplomatic skills" counted for naught. > > > > > > > > I believe that you too have been in such situations; whether guns > > > > were a > > > > > > > part or parcel of the scenario or not. Sometimes, a show of > > strength > > > > and > > > > > > > force is the only way to negotiate. > > > > > > > > Hey Holly!! > > > > > > > > Once again, I know that it is difficult for you to comprehend > > > > everything > > > > > > > that is written on your first reading. I suggest that you go > > back, > > > > > > re-read > > > > > > > Dik's initial comment, and then re-read my post. If there are > > > > questions > > > > > > > after doing so, then I will be more than happy to try and break > > down > > > > the > > > > > > > history as well as the analogy for you. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:42 AM, RICHARD BROWN < > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I've watched 15 members of a street gang who were armed with > > > > chains, > > > > > > > > knives and clubs and wanting to attack me change their minds > > after > > > > > > > > about two minutes. Five minutes later we parted in good > > spirits. > > > > > > > > I've watched eight Tiajuana police officers put their guns away > > and > > > > > > > > remove their roadblock in less than two minutes when they had > > been > > > > > > > > determined to take me into custody one way or another before I > > was > > > > > > > > stopped by them. It really is all about mind set. > > > > > > > > Dik > > > > > > > > > On Jun 20, 9:25 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > It also has to do with the mindset of the thug. Thugs are > > not > > > > > > usually > > > > > > > > > up to being dissed by someone like the woman you are > > postulating > > > > - > > > > > > and I > > > > > > > > > don't believe it for a second unless the thug was a > > browbeaten > > > > mama's > > > > > > > > boy. > > > > > > > > > > RICHARD BROWN wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I wrote a play about just such a woman. I met her when she > > was > > > > 75. > > > > > > > > > > She was 4;8" tall and blind since birth. I saw her dismiss > > a > > > > guy > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > was 6:10 and weighed about 300 lbs. wearing a white suit > > and a > > > > > > power > > > > > > > > > > tie. He was literally shaking afterwards and the people > > around > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > were laughing behind their hands. She didn't put up with > > any > > > > crap > > > > > > > > > > from anyone. > > > > > > > > > > It has to do with your mind set not the caliber of your > > gun. > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > Dik > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 20, 8:56 pm, dick thompson <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> I would bet you are not a sub 5 foot woman weighing about > > 85 > > > > lb > > > > > > > > soaking > > > > > > > > > >> wet and with arthritis and osteoporosis either. Supposed > > you > > > > were > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > >> a woman and a thug tried to break in at 3 AM. Do you > > think > > > > she > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > >> not need a weapon to subdue the thug or would she just > > smile > > > > and > > > > > > sing > > > > > > > > > >> Kumbaya to him and he would melt with the glorious aura > > of > > > > her > > > > > > > > > >> personality and hand over his weapon and apologize for > > > > bothering > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > >> leave with his head down in disgrace. > > > > > > > > > > >> RICHARD BROWN wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>> Keith, for 35 years I owned and operated an investigation > > > > agency > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > >>> 12 operatives. We never used guns and we had many of > > them > > > > > > pointed at > > > > > > > > > >>> us. We worked in every neighborhood in southern > > California, > > > > > > > > including > > > > > > > > > >>> Watts. None of us were ever harmed. We knew how to > > solve > > > > any > > > > > > > > > >>> situation without violence. I have faced down 15 men on > > two > > > > > > > > occasions > > > > > > > > > >>> without having to use a gun or resort to violence. I > > have > > > > stood > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > >>> robbers and murderers without being assaulted. It is not > > un- > > > > > > > > > >>> American. I am not opposed to others who want to own or > > use > > > > > > guns. I > > > > > > > > > >>> just have > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
