KIT, Of course they are part of our history, lots of things are. So what? No you didn't just "suggest it". You even went so far as to say anything less than your opinion was "un-American". Firearms should be used as sparingly as possible, you can't recall a bullet once it has been fired.
On Jun 21, 10:40 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Holly! > > Happy Father's Day to you also! > > Okay, real quick, maybe you can understand this, if I make it simple. > > Dik suggests that guns are not the answer. In fact, Dik says, "Guns are the > lazy solution to problems." > > I suggest to Dik that guns are a part of our history, and have worked well > as a deterrent as well as a negotiating factor for assholes who seem to be a > little slow, over two hundred years. > > Dik becomes quiet, Perp proves that my theory is correct by discussing how > she almost blew away a S.O.B. with a Mossberg. > > Almost time to fire up the grills here in Tampa Town, but if you have any > more questions, or if I can clarify anything else for ya, by all means, give > a Hollar!! > > Keith > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Hollywood > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > KIT, > > > Morning Keith, Happy Father's Day. > > > Oh yes, please do explain to me what your little essay has to do with > > how rapists pick out their targets. > > I look at a given post and scroll down to the little line that says > > "Show quoted text" to see what that post is responding to. I don't go > > wandering thru the thread or threads trying to find a post that maybe, > > might have something to do with it. > > > On Jun 21, 6:23 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Good Morning Dik, > > > > Unlike Dick, I tend to believe you. We all have had life experiences > > where > > > we have options to either master and use our diplomatic skills.....Or > > not. > > > > I too have been successful in negotiating a number of tense situations, > > (my > > > story is long and boring!!) but I have also been in situations where > > one's > > > "diplomatic skills" counted for naught. > > > > I believe that you too have been in such situations; whether guns were a > > > part or parcel of the scenario or not. Sometimes, a show of strength and > > > force is the only way to negotiate. > > > > Hey Holly!! > > > > Once again, I know that it is difficult for you to comprehend everything > > > that is written on your first reading. I suggest that you go back, > > re-read > > > Dik's initial comment, and then re-read my post. If there are questions > > > after doing so, then I will be more than happy to try and break down the > > > history as well as the analogy for you. > > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:42 AM, RICHARD BROWN < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I've watched 15 members of a street gang who were armed with chains, > > > > knives and clubs and wanting to attack me change their minds after > > > > about two minutes. Five minutes later we parted in good spirits. > > > > I've watched eight Tiajuana police officers put their guns away and > > > > remove their roadblock in less than two minutes when they had been > > > > determined to take me into custody one way or another before I was > > > > stopped by them. It really is all about mind set. > > > > Dik > > > > > On Jun 20, 9:25 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It also has to do with the mindset of the thug. Thugs are not > > usually > > > > > up to being dissed by someone like the woman you are postulating - > > and I > > > > > don't believe it for a second unless the thug was a browbeaten mama's > > > > boy. > > > > > > RICHARD BROWN wrote: > > > > > > I wrote a play about just such a woman. I met her when she was 75. > > > > > > She was 4;8" tall and blind since birth. I saw her dismiss a guy > > who > > > > > > was 6:10 and weighed about 300 lbs. wearing a white suit and a > > power > > > > > > tie. He was literally shaking afterwards and the people around him > > > > > > were laughing behind their hands. She didn't put up with any crap > > > > > > from anyone. > > > > > > It has to do with your mind set not the caliber of your gun. :-) > > > > > > Dik > > > > > > > On Jun 20, 8:56 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> I would bet you are not a sub 5 foot woman weighing about 85 lb > > > > soaking > > > > > >> wet and with arthritis and osteoporosis either. Supposed you were > > > > such > > > > > >> a woman and a thug tried to break in at 3 AM. Do you think she > > would > > > > > >> not need a weapon to subdue the thug or would she just smile and > > sing > > > > > >> Kumbaya to him and he would melt with the glorious aura of her > > > > > >> personality and hand over his weapon and apologize for bothering > > her > > > > and > > > > > >> leave with his head down in disgrace. > > > > > > >> RICHARD BROWN wrote: > > > > > > >>> Keith, for 35 years I owned and operated an investigation agency > > with > > > > > >>> 12 operatives. We never used guns and we had many of them > > pointed at > > > > > >>> us. We worked in every neighborhood in southern California, > > > > including > > > > > >>> Watts. None of us were ever harmed. We knew how to solve any > > > > > >>> situation without violence. I have faced down 15 men on two > > > > occasions > > > > > >>> without having to use a gun or resort to violence. I have stood > > up > > > > to > > > > > >>> robbers and murderers without being assaulted. It is not un- > > > > > >>> American. I am not opposed to others who want to own or use > > guns. I > > > > > >>> just have never found a need to do so. I have disarmed two > > visitors > > > > > >>> to our hospital without violence. When we have a Code Grey I > > arrive > > > > > >>> on the scene and immediately bring the hostile person to a > > peaceful > > > > > >>> mindset because of my training. I know that most people find > > this to > > > > > >>> be alien to their experience. Certainly the staff at the > > hospital do > > > > > >>> not understand how I do it, they just know that I can do it. > > Anyone > > > > > >>> can do it, but they have to surrender the mind set of violence as > > a > > > > > >>> solution to any problem. When they do that, they are able to see > > the > > > > > >>> obvious solution. > > > > > >>> Sometimes you don't have to kick the machine, just plug it in. > > :-) > > > > > >>> Dik > > > > > > >>> On Jun 20, 7:55 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > >>>> Firearms are the foundation of this Nation, as our forefathers > > wrote > > > > in both > > > > > >>>> the Federalist, and Anti-Federalist Papers. All were pretty > > much > > > > agreed on > > > > > >>>> the purposes of the Second Amendment, which was: > > > > > > >>>> (1) To protect one's family and property against vermin, > > wildlife, > > > > thieves, > > > > > >>>> rogues, bandits, etc.; > > > > > > >>>> (2) To protect one's family, home and Nation against foreign > > > > invaders; and > > > > > >>>> to act as a deterrent; and most importantly; > > > > > > >>>> (3) To protect one's family, home, and Nation against a > > tyrannical > > > > > >>>> government, and to act as a deterrent against an out of control > > > > > >>>> government. Those such as Charles Schumer, Nanc Pelosi, and > > other > > > > far left > > > > > >>>> extremists would do away with this provision of our > > Constitution. > > > > > > >>>> There is nothing lazy about discouraging an attack with firearms > > > > Dick, it is > > > > > >>>> the American way! Anything less is un-American! > > > > > > >>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:44 PM, RICHARD BROWN < > > > > > > >>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> Rapists pickon women who appear weak, timid and vulnerable. > > If a > > > > > >>>>> woman has studied any kind of martial arts, she will walk and > > carry > > > > > >>>>> herself in a bold and confident manner which will automatically > > > > > >>>>> discourage an attack. Guns are the lazy solution to problems. > > > > > >>>>> Dik > > > > > > >>>>> On Jun 20, 1:12 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>> "Cover the face with a Rebel Flag and f..k for the > > Confereracy." > > > > > > >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:25 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> No wonder.... based on the photos who'd want to ??? > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Jun 20, 11:22 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>> From: *Travis* > > > > > >>>>>>>> Date: Fri, Jun 19, 2009 > > > > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Women with Guns Don't Get Raped > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Well, duuuh! Anyone thinks Democrats and liberals care? > > > > > > >>>>>>>> B > > > > > > >>>>>>>>http://blogs.ink19.com/truthtopower/archives/6963 > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Women on Target: Preparing women to defend Liberty > > > > > >>>>>>>> June 16, 3:17 PM · Howard Nemerov - Austin Gun Rights > > Examiner > > > > > > >>>>>>>> The United Kingdom and Australia instituted gun bans in > > 1997. > > > > Between > > > > > > >>>>>>> 1995 > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and 2006, women in the United Kingdom suffered a 76.5% > > increase > > > > in > > > > > > >>>>> rape; > > > > > > >>>>>>> by > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2007 Australian women experienced a 29.9% increase. > > Meanwhile, > > > > rape * > > > > > >>>>>>>> decreased* 19.1% in America.* > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Today, women are raped twice as often in the UK as America, > > and > > > > > > >>>>>>> Australian > > > > > > >>>>>>>> women are raped three times as often. This is damning > > evidence > > > > that > > > > > > >>>>> gun > > > > > > >>>>>>>> control places women at *greater *risk. American women are > > > > hearing > > > > > > >>>>> this > > > > > > >>>>>>>> message, and more and more are arming themselves every day, > > not > > > > only > > > > > > >>>>> to > > > > > > >>>>>>>> protect themselves and their families from harm, but to > > ensure > > > > our > > > > > >>>>>>>> government doesn’t enact laws which disenfranchise women. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> In support of this effort, the National Rifle Association > > > > developed > > > > > > >>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>> Women > > > > > > >>>>>>>> on Target <http://www.nrahq.org/women/wot.asp> (WOT) > > program to > > > > > > >>>>>>> introduce > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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