Hello Holly! Happy Father's Day to you also!
Okay, real quick, maybe you can understand this, if I make it simple. Dik suggests that guns are not the answer. In fact, Dik says, "Guns are the lazy solution to problems." I suggest to Dik that guns are a part of our history, and have worked well as a deterrent as well as a negotiating factor for assholes who seem to be a little slow, over two hundred years. Dik becomes quiet, Perp proves that my theory is correct by discussing how she almost blew away a S.O.B. with a Mossberg. Almost time to fire up the grills here in Tampa Town, but if you have any more questions, or if I can clarify anything else for ya, by all means, give a Hollar!! Keith On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Hollywood <[email protected]>wrote: > > KIT, > > Morning Keith, Happy Father's Day. > > Oh yes, please do explain to me what your little essay has to do with > how rapists pick out their targets. > I look at a given post and scroll down to the little line that says > "Show quoted text" to see what that post is responding to. I don't go > wandering thru the thread or threads trying to find a post that maybe, > might have something to do with it. > > On Jun 21, 6:23 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Good Morning Dik, > > > > Unlike Dick, I tend to believe you. We all have had life experiences > where > > we have options to either master and use our diplomatic skills.....Or > not. > > > > I too have been successful in negotiating a number of tense situations, > (my > > story is long and boring!!) but I have also been in situations where > one's > > "diplomatic skills" counted for naught. > > > > I believe that you too have been in such situations; whether guns were a > > part or parcel of the scenario or not. Sometimes, a show of strength and > > force is the only way to negotiate. > > > > Hey Holly!! > > > > Once again, I know that it is difficult for you to comprehend everything > > that is written on your first reading. I suggest that you go back, > re-read > > Dik's initial comment, and then re-read my post. If there are questions > > after doing so, then I will be more than happy to try and break down the > > history as well as the analogy for you. > > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:42 AM, RICHARD BROWN < > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I've watched 15 members of a street gang who were armed with chains, > > > knives and clubs and wanting to attack me change their minds after > > > about two minutes. Five minutes later we parted in good spirits. > > > I've watched eight Tiajuana police officers put their guns away and > > > remove their roadblock in less than two minutes when they had been > > > determined to take me into custody one way or another before I was > > > stopped by them. It really is all about mind set. > > > Dik > > > > > On Jun 20, 9:25 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It also has to do with the mindset of the thug. Thugs are not > usually > > > > up to being dissed by someone like the woman you are postulating - > and I > > > > don't believe it for a second unless the thug was a browbeaten mama's > > > boy. > > > > > > RICHARD BROWN wrote: > > > > > I wrote a play about just such a woman. I met her when she was 75. > > > > > She was 4;8" tall and blind since birth. I saw her dismiss a guy > who > > > > > was 6:10 and weighed about 300 lbs. wearing a white suit and a > power > > > > > tie. He was literally shaking afterwards and the people around him > > > > > were laughing behind their hands. She didn't put up with any crap > > > > > from anyone. > > > > > It has to do with your mind set not the caliber of your gun. :-) > > > > > Dik > > > > > > > On Jun 20, 8:56 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> I would bet you are not a sub 5 foot woman weighing about 85 lb > > > soaking > > > > >> wet and with arthritis and osteoporosis either. Supposed you were > > > such > > > > >> a woman and a thug tried to break in at 3 AM. Do you think she > would > > > > >> not need a weapon to subdue the thug or would she just smile and > sing > > > > >> Kumbaya to him and he would melt with the glorious aura of her > > > > >> personality and hand over his weapon and apologize for bothering > her > > > and > > > > >> leave with his head down in disgrace. > > > > > > >> RICHARD BROWN wrote: > > > > > > >>> Keith, for 35 years I owned and operated an investigation agency > with > > > > >>> 12 operatives. We never used guns and we had many of them > pointed at > > > > >>> us. We worked in every neighborhood in southern California, > > > including > > > > >>> Watts. None of us were ever harmed. We knew how to solve any > > > > >>> situation without violence. I have faced down 15 men on two > > > occasions > > > > >>> without having to use a gun or resort to violence. I have stood > up > > > to > > > > >>> robbers and murderers without being assaulted. It is not un- > > > > >>> American. I am not opposed to others who want to own or use > guns. I > > > > >>> just have never found a need to do so. I have disarmed two > visitors > > > > >>> to our hospital without violence. When we have a Code Grey I > arrive > > > > >>> on the scene and immediately bring the hostile person to a > peaceful > > > > >>> mindset because of my training. I know that most people find > this to > > > > >>> be alien to their experience. Certainly the staff at the > hospital do > > > > >>> not understand how I do it, they just know that I can do it. > Anyone > > > > >>> can do it, but they have to surrender the mind set of violence as > a > > > > >>> solution to any problem. When they do that, they are able to see > the > > > > >>> obvious solution. > > > > >>> Sometimes you don't have to kick the machine, just plug it in. > :-) > > > > >>> Dik > > > > > > >>> On Jun 20, 7:55 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > >>>> Firearms are the foundation of this Nation, as our forefathers > wrote > > > in both > > > > >>>> the Federalist, and Anti-Federalist Papers. All were pretty > much > > > agreed on > > > > >>>> the purposes of the Second Amendment, which was: > > > > > > >>>> (1) To protect one's family and property against vermin, > wildlife, > > > thieves, > > > > >>>> rogues, bandits, etc.; > > > > > > >>>> (2) To protect one's family, home and Nation against foreign > > > invaders; and > > > > >>>> to act as a deterrent; and most importantly; > > > > > > >>>> (3) To protect one's family, home, and Nation against a > tyrannical > > > > >>>> government, and to act as a deterrent against an out of control > > > > >>>> government. Those such as Charles Schumer, Nanc Pelosi, and > other > > > far left > > > > >>>> extremists would do away with this provision of our > Constitution. > > > > > > >>>> There is nothing lazy about discouraging an attack with firearms > > > Dick, it is > > > > >>>> the American way! Anything less is un-American! > > > > > > >>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:44 PM, RICHARD BROWN < > > > > > > >>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> Rapists pickon women who appear weak, timid and vulnerable. > If a > > > > >>>>> woman has studied any kind of martial arts, she will walk and > carry > > > > >>>>> herself in a bold and confident manner which will automatically > > > > >>>>> discourage an attack. Guns are the lazy solution to problems. > > > > >>>>> Dik > > > > > > >>>>> On Jun 20, 1:12 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>> "Cover the face with a Rebel Flag and f..k for the > Confereracy." > > > > > > >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:25 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE < > > > [email protected] > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> No wonder.... based on the photos who'd want to ??? > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Jun 20, 11:22 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>> From: *Travis* > > > > >>>>>>>> Date: Fri, Jun 19, 2009 > > > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Women with Guns Don't Get Raped > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Well, duuuh! Anyone thinks Democrats and liberals care? > > > > > > >>>>>>>> B > > > > > > >>>>>>>>http://blogs.ink19.com/truthtopower/archives/6963 > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Women on Target: Preparing women to defend Liberty > > > > >>>>>>>> June 16, 3:17 PM · Howard Nemerov - Austin Gun Rights > Examiner > > > > > > >>>>>>>> The United Kingdom and Australia instituted gun bans in > 1997. > > > Between > > > > > > >>>>>>> 1995 > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and 2006, women in the United Kingdom suffered a 76.5% > increase > > > in > > > > > > >>>>> rape; > > > > > > >>>>>>> by > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2007 Australian women experienced a 29.9% increase. > Meanwhile, > > > rape * > > > > >>>>>>>> decreased* 19.1% in America.* > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Today, women are raped twice as often in the UK as America, > and > > > > > > >>>>>>> Australian > > > > > > >>>>>>>> women are raped three times as often. This is damning > evidence > > > that > > > > > > >>>>> gun > > > > > > >>>>>>>> control places women at *greater *risk. American women are > > > hearing > > > > > > >>>>> this > > > > > > >>>>>>>> message, and more and more are arming themselves every day, > not > > > only > > > > > > >>>>> to > > > > > > >>>>>>>> protect themselves and their families from harm, but to > ensure > > > our > > > > >>>>>>>> government doesn’t enact laws which disenfranchise women. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> In support of this effort, the National Rifle Association > > > developed > > > > > > >>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>> Women > > > > > > >>>>>>>> on Target <http://www.nrahq.org/women/wot.asp> (WOT) > program to > > > > > > >>>>>>> introduce > > > > > > >>>>>>>> women to shooting sports in a safe and fun manner. > Yesterday, 61 > > > > > > >>>>> women > > > > > > >>>>>>>> participated in WOT at the American Shooting > > > > >>>>>>>> Center<http://www.amshootcenters.com/>in Houston, Texas, > hosted > > > by > > > > > > >>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Houston > > > > >>>>>>>> Daughters of Liberty <http://www.daughtersofliberty.com/>. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Beth Hellmann, Program Coordinator for NRA Women’s Programs, > was > > > a > > > > > > >>>>> WOT > > > > > > >>>>>>>> clinic coordinator for 5 years at her gun club before > joining > > > NRA > > > > >>>>>>>> headquarters and has run the WOT program since its > inception. > > > She has > > > > > > >>>>>>> seen > > > > > > >>>>>>>> WOT grow from just 13 clinics in the first year to over 200 > > > clinics > > > > >>>>>>>> annually, and says that 2009 looks like another record > breaking > > > year. > > > > > > >>>>>>> Clinic > > > > > > >>>>>>>> directors report that classes are filling up months in > advance, > > > and > > > > > > >>>>> often > > > > > > >>>>>>>> add clinics to accommodate demand. The WOT program is on > track > > > to > > > > > > >>>>> teach > > > > > > >>>>>>> over > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 8,000 women this year, breaking last year’s record of 7,250 > > > students > > > > > > >>>>> and > > > > > > >>>>>>> 240 > > > > > > >>>>>>>> clinics. By mid-June of this year, 232 clinics are already > > > > > > >>>>> registered. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Beth started her career in shooting instruction when her son > > > wanted > > > > > > >>>>> to > > > > > > >>>>>>> join > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the high school rifle team. She was surprised that the > school > > > even > > > > > > >>>>> had a > > > > > > >>>>>>>> rifle team in this “civilized” era, but grew up in a > shooting > > > family, > > > > > > >>>>> so > > > > > > >>>>>>> she > > > > > > >>>>>>>> was amenable. She asked the coaches if they needed any help, > > > figuring > > > > > > >>>>>>> that > > > > > > >>>>>>>> being a woman they would have her bake brownies for fund > raisers > > > or > > > > >>>>>>>> something along those “traditional” lines. Instead, they > invited > > > > ... > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
