Good Morning Dik, Unlike Dick, I tend to believe you. We all have had life experiences where we have options to either master and use our diplomatic skills.....Or not.
I too have been successful in negotiating a number of tense situations, (my story is long and boring!!) but I have also been in situations where one's "diplomatic skills" counted for naught. I believe that you too have been in such situations; whether guns were a part or parcel of the scenario or not. Sometimes, a show of strength and force is the only way to negotiate. Hey Holly!! Once again, I know that it is difficult for you to comprehend everything that is written on your first reading. I suggest that you go back, re-read Dik's initial comment, and then re-read my post. If there are questions after doing so, then I will be more than happy to try and break down the history as well as the analogy for you. On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:42 AM, RICHARD BROWN < [email protected]> wrote: > > I've watched 15 members of a street gang who were armed with chains, > knives and clubs and wanting to attack me change their minds after > about two minutes. Five minutes later we parted in good spirits. > I've watched eight Tiajuana police officers put their guns away and > remove their roadblock in less than two minutes when they had been > determined to take me into custody one way or another before I was > stopped by them. It really is all about mind set. > Dik > > On Jun 20, 9:25 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > It also has to do with the mindset of the thug. Thugs are not usually > > up to being dissed by someone like the woman you are postulating - and I > > don't believe it for a second unless the thug was a browbeaten mama's > boy. > > > > > > > > RICHARD BROWN wrote: > > > I wrote a play about just such a woman. I met her when she was 75. > > > She was 4;8" tall and blind since birth. I saw her dismiss a guy who > > > was 6:10 and weighed about 300 lbs. wearing a white suit and a power > > > tie. He was literally shaking afterwards and the people around him > > > were laughing behind their hands. She didn't put up with any crap > > > from anyone. > > > It has to do with your mind set not the caliber of your gun. :-) > > > Dik > > > > > On Jun 20, 8:56 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> I would bet you are not a sub 5 foot woman weighing about 85 lb > soaking > > >> wet and with arthritis and osteoporosis either. Supposed you were > such > > >> a woman and a thug tried to break in at 3 AM. Do you think she would > > >> not need a weapon to subdue the thug or would she just smile and sing > > >> Kumbaya to him and he would melt with the glorious aura of her > > >> personality and hand over his weapon and apologize for bothering her > and > > >> leave with his head down in disgrace. > > > > >> RICHARD BROWN wrote: > > > > >>> Keith, for 35 years I owned and operated an investigation agency with > > >>> 12 operatives. We never used guns and we had many of them pointed at > > >>> us. We worked in every neighborhood in southern California, > including > > >>> Watts. None of us were ever harmed. We knew how to solve any > > >>> situation without violence. I have faced down 15 men on two > occasions > > >>> without having to use a gun or resort to violence. I have stood up > to > > >>> robbers and murderers without being assaulted. It is not un- > > >>> American. I am not opposed to others who want to own or use guns. I > > >>> just have never found a need to do so. I have disarmed two visitors > > >>> to our hospital without violence. When we have a Code Grey I arrive > > >>> on the scene and immediately bring the hostile person to a peaceful > > >>> mindset because of my training. I know that most people find this to > > >>> be alien to their experience. Certainly the staff at the hospital do > > >>> not understand how I do it, they just know that I can do it. Anyone > > >>> can do it, but they have to surrender the mind set of violence as a > > >>> solution to any problem. When they do that, they are able to see the > > >>> obvious solution. > > >>> Sometimes you don't have to kick the machine, just plug it in. :-) > > >>> Dik > > > > >>> On Jun 20, 7:55 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>> Firearms are the foundation of this Nation, as our forefathers wrote > in both > > >>>> the Federalist, and Anti-Federalist Papers. All were pretty much > agreed on > > >>>> the purposes of the Second Amendment, which was: > > > > >>>> (1) To protect one's family and property against vermin, wildlife, > thieves, > > >>>> rogues, bandits, etc.; > > > > >>>> (2) To protect one's family, home and Nation against foreign > invaders; and > > >>>> to act as a deterrent; and most importantly; > > > > >>>> (3) To protect one's family, home, and Nation against a tyrannical > > >>>> government, and to act as a deterrent against an out of control > > >>>> government. Those such as Charles Schumer, Nanc Pelosi, and other > far left > > >>>> extremists would do away with this provision of our Constitution. > > > > >>>> There is nothing lazy about discouraging an attack with firearms > Dick, it is > > >>>> the American way! Anything less is un-American! > > > > >>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:44 PM, RICHARD BROWN < > > > > >>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>> Rapists pickon women who appear weak, timid and vulnerable. If a > > >>>>> woman has studied any kind of martial arts, she will walk and carry > > >>>>> herself in a bold and confident manner which will automatically > > >>>>> discourage an attack. Guns are the lazy solution to problems. > > >>>>> Dik > > > > >>>>> On Jun 20, 1:12 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> "Cover the face with a Rebel Flag and f..k for the Confereracy." > > > > >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:25 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE < > [email protected] > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> No wonder.... based on the photos who'd want to ??? > > > > >>>>>>> On Jun 20, 11:22 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> From: *Travis* > > >>>>>>>> Date: Fri, Jun 19, 2009 > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Women with Guns Don't Get Raped > > > > >>>>>>>> Well, duuuh! Anyone thinks Democrats and liberals care? > > > > >>>>>>>> B > > > > >>>>>>>>http://blogs.ink19.com/truthtopower/archives/6963 > > > > >>>>>>>> Women on Target: Preparing women to defend Liberty > > >>>>>>>> June 16, 3:17 PM · Howard Nemerov - Austin Gun Rights Examiner > > > > >>>>>>>> The United Kingdom and Australia instituted gun bans in 1997. > Between > > > > >>>>>>> 1995 > > > > >>>>>>>> and 2006, women in the United Kingdom suffered a 76.5% increase > in > > > > >>>>> rape; > > > > >>>>>>> by > > > > >>>>>>>> 2007 Australian women experienced a 29.9% increase. Meanwhile, > rape * > > >>>>>>>> decreased* 19.1% in America.* > > > > >>>>>>>> Today, women are raped twice as often in the UK as America, and > > > > >>>>>>> Australian > > > > >>>>>>>> women are raped three times as often. This is damning evidence > that > > > > >>>>> gun > > > > >>>>>>>> control places women at *greater *risk. American women are > hearing > > > > >>>>> this > > > > >>>>>>>> message, and more and more are arming themselves every day, not > only > > > > >>>>> to > > > > >>>>>>>> protect themselves and their families from harm, but to ensure > our > > >>>>>>>> government doesn’t enact laws which disenfranchise women. > > > > >>>>>>>> In support of this effort, the National Rifle Association > developed > > > > >>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>> Women > > > > >>>>>>>> on Target <http://www.nrahq.org/women/wot.asp> (WOT) program to > > > > >>>>>>> introduce > > > > >>>>>>>> women to shooting sports in a safe and fun manner. Yesterday, 61 > > > > >>>>> women > > > > >>>>>>>> participated in WOT at the American Shooting > > >>>>>>>> Center<http://www.amshootcenters.com/>in Houston, Texas, hosted > by > > > > >>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>>> Houston > > >>>>>>>> Daughters of Liberty <http://www.daughtersofliberty.com/>. > > > > >>>>>>>> Beth Hellmann, Program Coordinator for NRA Women’s Programs, was > a > > > > >>>>> WOT > > > > >>>>>>>> clinic coordinator for 5 years at her gun club before joining > NRA > > >>>>>>>> headquarters and has run the WOT program since its inception. > She has > > > > >>>>>>> seen > > > > >>>>>>>> WOT grow from just 13 clinics in the first year to over 200 > clinics > > >>>>>>>> annually, and says that 2009 looks like another record breaking > year. > > > > >>>>>>> Clinic > > > > >>>>>>>> directors report that classes are filling up months in advance, > and > > > > >>>>> often > > > > >>>>>>>> add clinics to accommodate demand. The WOT program is on track > to > > > > >>>>> teach > > > > >>>>>>> over > > > > >>>>>>>> 8,000 women this year, breaking last year’s record of 7,250 > students > > > > >>>>> and > > > > >>>>>>> 240 > > > > >>>>>>>> clinics. By mid-June of this year, 232 clinics are already > > > > >>>>> registered. > > > > >>>>>>>> Beth started her career in shooting instruction when her son > wanted > > > > >>>>> to > > > > >>>>>>> join > > > > >>>>>>>> the high school rifle team. She was surprised that the school > even > > > > >>>>> had a > > > > >>>>>>>> rifle team in this “civilized” era, but grew up in a shooting > family, > > > > >>>>> so > > > > >>>>>>> she > > > > >>>>>>>> was amenable. She asked the coaches if they needed any help, > figuring > > > > >>>>>>> that > > > > >>>>>>>> being a woman they would have her bake brownies for fund raisers > or > > >>>>>>>> something along those “traditional” lines. Instead, they invited > her > > > > >>>>> to > > > > >>>>>>>> become a rifle instructor and then get her coaching credentials. > Now, > > > > >>>>> she > > > > >>>>>>> is > > > > >>>>>>>> a national leader in bringing women into shooting sports, > changing > > > > >>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>> face > > > > >>>>>>>> of the shooting community to one that is family-friendly and > > > > >>>>> mainstream > > > > >>>>>>>> America. > > > > >>>>>>>> At Monday’s event, 61 women braved the Houston heat and had an > > > > >>>>>>> opportunity > > > > >>>>>>>> to learn how to shoot rifles, shotguns and pistols. After a > range > > > > >>>>> safety > > > > >>>>>>>> briefing by Deb Wardlaw <http://www.debwardlaw.com/>, TSRA > Director > > > > >>>>> of > > > > ... > > > > read more » > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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